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#10674 of 10918 Re: This is how science works [steve_] by xrunner2

Jul 03, 2012 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Jul 02, 2012 5:58 pm)
Our problem now is having elected officials that, unlike Nixon and the EPA formation days, won't work together on the issues.

 
Or the people appointed and blessed by elected officials. Such as a Cabinet Member of our current Administration that wanted to put his boot on the neck of BP rather than working with them. Or another high level EPA person, appointed by the Administration, that told his people to CRUCIFY companies, especially oil companies.

#10675 of 10918 Re: Farming the Wind [houdini1] by larsb

Jul 03, 2012 (2:13 pm)

Replying to: houdini1 (Jul 03, 2012 1:41 pm)
Solar has "panned out" just fine for my house. Saves me somewhere in the neighborhood of $500 per year.
 
There are a lot of solar and wind success stories.
 
Ans as far as "taxpayer dollars," worry about that when oil subsidies and the associated tax breaks are ended.
 
We taxpayers give FAR more money away to Big Oil than we do to Green Solar or Green Wind.

#10676 of 10918 Re: Farming the Wind [larsb] by gagrice

Jul 03, 2012 (3:37 pm)

Replying to: larsb (Jul 03, 2012 2:13 pm)
We taxpayers give FAR more money away to Big Oil than we do to Green Solar or Green Wind.
 
Not even close on a BTU or KWH per buck basis. The so called subsidies to oil companies are very difficult to actually prove. Most are tax deductions for expenses involved with exploration and production. The war angle is hardly realistic. Unless you just don't believe we should have the niceties that oil has provided US. You have been reading the Huffington Post and Daily Kos again.
 
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/05/about_those_oil_subsidies.html

#10677 of 10918 GW fights back at SUVs by steve_ HOST

Jul 03, 2012 (7:59 pm)

Like the redwood that fell on a SUV several years ago, global warming strikes again. Okay, bit of a stretch but the video accompanying the story is more fun than the recent Hot Wheels Double Dare Loop.
 
Heat buckles Highway 29, video captures airborne SUV (jsonline.com)

#10678 of 10918 AGW Cult Nuts by gagrice

Jul 04, 2012 (5:51 am)

Here is the thinking of another AGW cult Nut.
 
  Euthanize Your Old Pet

Pets have become a common feature in most homes and are an attribute of the modern, Western lifestyle. We all love our dogs and cats, but really, when you think about it, pets are a major producer of excess carbon. One of the best ways to reasonably enjoy your pet and reduce your overall Carbon Footprint is to determine in advance how long your pet should live. As a family, set a date when your pet will be euthanized. One great way to teach children the value of pet euthanasia is to turn the occasion into a family celebration. Let's say you've set March 10, five years from now, as your pet's euthanasia date. For the next five years, celebrate March 10 as your pet's special day, with a family party and perhaps a visit to your pet's future burial spot. Teach your children to think of the occasion as a birthday in reverse. A predetermined euthanasia date will encourage your family to love and care for your furry friend while it's still young and playful. What's more, pre-planing for pet termination not only works towards reducing your family's Carbon Footprint, but guarantees long term reduction in veterinary expenses.
 
How about Mom and Dad and Grandma and Grandpa, Soylent Green anyone?

#10679 of 10918 Re: AGW Cult Nuts [gagrice] by xrunner2

Jul 04, 2012 (6:58 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 04, 2012 5:51 am)
We all love our dogs and cats, but really, when you think about it, pets are a major producer of excess carbon.
 
So, less is more. On gas emissions. Size and quantity (low or none) matter. Maybe a chiwowa (SP) is a better pet than a German Shepherd per epa types. Given that our govt can regulate all/most matters environmentally, maybe our nanny state US congress will legislate one pet per household and a penalty, er tax, for dogs over a certain weight (10 pounds?) and scaled to size/weight of dog. Seeing eye dogs would be exempt.
 
Next. Beans. Chili with beans would be illegal to sell in stores and restaurants. And, a special tax in stores on cans of beans.

#10680 of 10918 Re: AGW Cult Nuts [xrunner2] by gagrice

Jul 04, 2012 (7:20 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 04, 2012 6:58 am)
Then you have folks on welfare with 19 kids, 9 dogs and 1 cat. Now there is a carbon footprint the size of Al Gore's, all being subsidized by the Tax Payers.
 
Police authorities in Bowling Green, Ky., say 19 children were left inside a filthy home unsupervised for a week with no food or air-conditioning.
 
Deputies said the children ranged in age from 8 months to 14 years old and were taken to a nearby medical center Monday before they were released into protective custody, according to ABC News station WBKO.
 
On Tuesday, Jackie Farah was arrested and charged with 14 counts of criminal abuse and five counts of wanton endangerment, according to WBKO. She is being held without bail. Police are still looking for Irving “Joe” Smith, who they believe is the children’s father.
 
Police said nine dogs and one cat were also found in the home.

#10681 of 10918 Re: This is how science works [steve_] by monksterman

Jul 04, 2012 (9:45 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Jul 03, 2012 8:05 am)
Good for them! Just b/c they don't play it (yet) doesn't invalidate that the states are still nation states, but thanks for the red herring.
 
  As for global warming news related to automobiles, it all does relate vis-a-vis A21 and the fraud being perpetuated for transfer of wealth on the American, nay the world's population that is other than 3rd world.
 
You do know A21 language abolishes all private property ownership do you not? Automobiles are private property.
 
And I and everyone else notice that you have not responded to where in Article I Section 8 of the constitution it mentions anything about environmental regulation.
 
As far as bogie men got a little visual for everyone:
 
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2304/puppeteer.jpg
 
and
 
http://theyrule.net/
 
Just sayin' ...

#10682 of 10918 Re: This is how science works [monksterman] by steve_ HOST

Jul 04, 2012 (12:25 pm)

Replying to: monksterman (Jul 04, 2012 9:45 am)
Texans' threats to leave the US reminds me of a friend who was asked what part of Mexico he was from. He said the occupied part. (He was a native San Antonian).
 
You know no one owns anything anyway right? Just try taking it with you. Not to mention you don't own stuff, it owns you. I'm not lying in bed losing sleep over A21 or ET from Area 51 using my minivan when I need it to get to the store.
 
Just sayin'

#10683 of 10918 Re: This is how science works [steve_] by monksterman

Jul 04, 2012 (5:09 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Jul 04, 2012 12:25 pm)
Ah, you're waxing philosophical on us...great!
 
Any other platitudes you wanna share?!?
 
Sleep well. It's always the vigilant few that protect the majority.
 
Both you and your San Antonio friend should watch the movie End of the Road...

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