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#63 of 82 Tires losing air pressure by rennybosch Mar 26, 2009 (11:20 am)
My LS460L tires (all 5 of them) lost about 6 psi over 5 months, going from 36 psi to 29-31, thereby turning on the Warning light. When I took the car in for its 15,000 mi service I told the dealer (Park Place Mission Viejo) that I wanted this problem fixed, if necessary by replacing the wheels. They tried to tell me this was normal, that the manual instructs you to check air pressure regularly, that they would be happy to refill the tires anytime I wish to stop by, and -- finally -- that they are about to install a Nitrogen system to fill tires with Nitrogen instead of air, which is supposed to reduce leakage.   Have any of you with 460's had similar experience, and what was the resolution, if any? Replies to this message: jmcraney (Mar 26, 2009 12:21 pm) rennybosch (Mar 28, 2009 3:42 pm) cargovan (Jun 17, 2009 9:50 pm)
#64 of 82 Re: Tires losing air pressure [rennybosch] by jmcraney Mar 26, 2009 (12:21 pm)
Replying to: rennybosch (Mar 26, 2009 11:20 am) Permeation loss of up to 1 PSI per month is considered normal. Also a gain or loss (gain for increasing temperature and loss for decreasing temperature) of up to 1 PSI per 10 degrees Fahrenheit is normal. So, I would say that your situation is within normal expectations. That is why your tires need to be checked and air added regularly. Nitrogen has some marginally better characteristics, both permeation and temperature coefficient, but if you are having to pay very much for it, it is not worth it.   All tires have always exhibited these characteristics and many premature failures and catastrophic failures are the result of prolonged operation while they are under-inflated due to inattention. That is the main impetus for the NHTSA mandated Tire Pressure Measurement Systems that were required by law beginning with all 2008 model cars and light trucks sold in the US. While you might find it annoying to be reminded so forcefully by your car that the tires are under inflated it is for your own safety. There is no substitute for adding more air or nitrogen to your tires periodically. Replies to this message: rennybosch (Mar 28, 2009 3:42 pm)
#65 of 82 Re: Tires losing air pressure [jmcraney] by rennybosch Mar 28, 2009 (3:42 pm)
Replying to: jmcraney (Mar 26, 2009 12:21 pm) Thanks jmcraney for your very informative reply. I wish the Lexus guys had been able to put it like that. They just made it sound like double-talk.   Renny
#66 of 82 LS 430 Extended Warranty ripoff - Longo Lexus by dokolenko Apr 02, 2009 (9:22 am)
My mother owns a 2005 LS 430 and as it was nearing the end of its warranty period she wanted to buy a factory extended warranty. She went to Longo Lexus (El Monte, CA) and bought what she thought was a Lexus factory extended warranty from Rachel Amin Financial Svc Manager there. Three weeks later my mother discovered that she was sold a 3rd party warranty! When I saw this and told me I was in shock, I never expected a Lexus dealership, especially a large one, to take advantage of a customer like this. What a rip off!!   I went to the dealer with my mother and spoke with Rachel Amin. When I told her about her ripoff she immediately said that the reason she sold my mom the 3rd party warranty was because the Lexus factory warranty was much more expensive. At no time during the original sale did Rachel present my mom with the option to choose between the two warranties and tell her the pricing of the two. My mother asked for an extended warranty and was only presented with one which she bought assuming it was the Lexus warranty. My mother paid $2,000 for 7 yr/100K mile $50 ded warranty by "Motor Warranty Servies of North America" . The Lexus warranty 7 yr/100K mile $0 ded is $2,900 MSRP and $2,100 at Molle Toyota which my mother bought. Longo Lexus agreed to refund the purchase of the original contract. Replies to this message: wwest (Apr 03, 2009 9:52 am) bjnlott (Sep 12, 2009 3:50 pm) wwest (Sep 13, 2009 3:04 pm) dokolenko (Sep 14, 2009 11:19 am) and 2 more... rennybosch (Sep 16, 2009 6:16 pm) and 1 more...
#67 of 82 Re: LS 430 Extended Warranty ripoff - Longo Lexus [dokolenko] by wwest Apr 03, 2009 (9:52 am)
Replying to: dokolenko (Apr 02, 2009 9:22 am) I'm pretty sure the Lexus (Toyota) warranty can be had for less than $1000 if you shop around. NEVER buy the extended warranty from the dealer selling you the vehicle.   HUGE source of income for the dealer's "financial" manager. Replies to this message: bjnlott (Sep 12, 2009 3:50 pm) wwest (Sep 13, 2009 3:04 pm) dokolenko (Sep 14, 2009 11:19 am) bjnlott (Sep 14, 2009 11:37 am) bjnlott (Sep 14, 2009 2:48 pm) rennybosch (Sep 16, 2009 6:16 pm) bjnlott (Sep 16, 2009 7:13 pm)
#68 of 82 Re: cruise control sensor [mac1lsr1] by kiiwii Apr 22, 2009 (1:53 pm)
Replying to: mac1lsr1 (Apr 11, 2008 5:09 am) I've read many simple fix/improvements on many different types of vehicles. It's interesting that the car makers didn't think of these little things while designing the cars. In this case, Lexus has the ability to come up with laser cruise control but failed to do a simple protective cover. Why? Same as those 3m headlight films. It costs very little, but will save you hundreds of dollars. I don't understand why car makes don't do those during production.
#69 of 82 Re: tire pressure loss re: post #47 [sidgriggs] by cargovan Jun 17, 2009 (9:20 pm)
Replying to: sidgriggs (Nov 03, 2007 4:33 am) Yes, I have four Bridgestone ER 33. I also have factory rim with tire size 245/45/18. You can't always think that once air is filled in tires at the recommeded psi, that it will stay that way for a long time without needing to check them. Experts say that tire pressure should be checked at least monthly. I check them weekly. This is good practice toward long tire life, better handling and most of all best gas mileage possible. Don't forget to rotate and balance them regularly.
#70 of 82 Re: Tires losing air pressure [rennybosch] by cargovan Jun 17, 2009 (9:50 pm)
Replying to: rennybosch (Mar 26, 2009 11:20 am) This normal with all cars whether they are Lexus or not. If you haven't check tire pressure in 5 months chances you will experience air loss. Do yourself a favor, check your tires bi weekly or even monthly. By doing so, your tires will receive longer tires, better gas mileage and improved handling.
#71 of 82 Re: Non-Dealer Oil Change [wgg1] by cargovan Jun 17, 2009 (10:10 pm)
Replying to: wgg1 (Aug 14, 2002 5:51 am) It all depends on how well you know these quick oil change shop. Do you have a mechanic whom you trust to do the job right? To me, it is not difficult because I do my own oil changes. If you think that the cost isn't an issue, go the the dealership for the oil change. If you trust outside repair shop to do your oil change, then go to the outside repair shop to do your oil changes. Changing your oil regularly keep your car running in peak condition.
#72 of 82 Re: Pricing and Reliability for the LS 430 [andrewsp] by cargovan Jun 17, 2009 (10:20 pm)
Replying to: andrewsp (Nov 11, 2002 11:44 am) You may want to look into a certified pre-owned. I purchased a 2003 LS 430 in July of 2007. I am pleased with my certified pre-owned purchase. Also look at edmunds.com to further your own research on LS 430. I think that cost of maintenance work on LS 430 is less than European cars. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jun 18, 2009 11:05 am)

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