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Saturn VUE Green Line - Real World MPG Numbers

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Re: Saturn VUE Green Line - Real World MPG Numbers [pf_flyer] by mke_mark
Apr 22, 2008 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Oct 30, 2006 6:48 am)

Purchased VUE Green Line 5/17/07. As of 4/22/08 I have filled the tank 53 times. Current mileage 18450. Average overall fuel economy 26.6 MPG. Best fuel economy 33.2 MPG. Only 5 tanks of the 53 so far have been 30 MPG or better. Worst mileage 14.8 MPG (through Tennessee mountains with cruise control on and a luggage carrier on the roof...won't do that again!) Normal commute 20 miles, mostly highway. Cautious driver. Found mileage was better on my 2005 VUE, I bought the Green Line Hybrid because I was promised 20% better mileage. Needless to say, I'm very disappointed. I've been a loyal Saturn owner for over a decade, but now I'm working to pay down my car loan and unload the VUE as quickly as possible.
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Driving the GreenLine Again by chmsomm
May 16, 2008 (4:28 pm)
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Hi Folks,
 
My wife siezed the 2007 Vue GreenLine last year by eminent domain because she likes to sit high. We just traded in our 2002 LW300 wagon for a 2008 Vue XR. My wife never got used to the brakes on the GreenLine, so she took the new XR and I got the GreenLine back. She only fills up every 2 weeks, regardless of vehicle. I have a 26 mile commute (round trip), high speed to bumper to bumper, nasty Philly roads and drivers.
 
We had a problem with the electrical harness, which was replaced under warranty. Not happy about that. Others have reported a variety of electrical problems, battery problems, etc. Not an insignificant issue when considering buying a GreenLine. Read the posts of customers with problems. BE AWARE!!!
  
I typically average about 25 mpg in the GreenLine. Observations:
 
1. This 2007 GreenLine is a mid-size SUV, not a compact car or a small SUV. Compare the mileage to other mid-size SUVs. The 2007 cost us less than the V6 XE model. The 2007 4 cylinder Vue was a weak mover, I test drove one. If you want a small 4 cylinder SUV, go get a Honda CRV.
 
2. You have to learn how to drive a hybrid. They have regenerative breaks to charge the battery, charge the battery when the car is coasting, have an engine shut-off, etc. If you are not willing to re-learn some driving habits, a hybrid (regardless of type) is probably not for you.
 
3. I characterize the Vue GL as a 4 cylinder plus vehicle. The acceleration is about the same as our old Chevy Malibu 6 cylinder. The 4 cylinder, with the added torque from the electric motor, is better than the 4 cylinder alone. This is not a V6 XR model, don't expect it to be.
 
4. HybridVue gives some very good advice, despite being somewhat neurotic about his mileage (how is that for a back-handed compliment). Charge the battery, discharge the battery. Learn to use "the coast", especially on down hill sections of the road, to charge the battery. Think ahead at intersections and use "the coast" to charge the battery. If you have a Lead Foot and like to hard accerate the Hybrid Vue is probabaly not for you. Lead Foots should get an XR. Accelerate at a reasonable pace/rpm.
 
5. You can do this without aggravating other drivers.
 
6. I typically use a gallon per day on my 26 mile commute with the Vue GL. This will go down to 23-24 during the summer when I use the air conditioner alot. I use it in the non-green mode (personal choice). I hate humidity. My mileage decreases a little, I don't whine about it.
 
7. My 2002 LW300 was using 3/4 of a tank for 5 days commuting, 8-9 gallons of gas. I now use about 5 gallons of gas for the 5 day commute. I have switched from a 6 cylinder station wagon to a 4 cylinder mid-size. I am saving $40-$50 per month in gas.
 
8. I have seen no posts on the 2008 GreenLine.
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Re: Driving the GreenLine Again [chmsomm] by chmsomm
May 29, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: chmsomm (May 16, 2008 4:28 pm)

Reply to my own post.
 
I have been able to calculate mare accurately after a few tanks.
 
Averaging 27.8 mpg in the 2007 Vue GreenLine. 26 mile round trip commute 50-50 burb and highway driving and weekend suburban driving. Traffic in our burbs is typically moderate, sometimes heavy, rarely light.
 
With gas now $4/gallon, a year after the purchase, I am very satisfied to drive a mid-size SUV that gets this mileage. Due to rather horrendous injuries I sustained as a passenger in a compact car that was T-boned by a minivan this is a good solution (a larger/higher vehicle with good gas mileage).
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The MPGs Keep Rising..... by hybridvue
Jun 03, 2008 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: chmsomm (May 16, 2008 4:28 pm)

With the warmer temperatures and the Summer Blend of Gas - my Hybrid Vue keeps on performing.
 
103rd Tank
18+ Months of ownership – 46,090 Miles - 103 Fillups – Lifetime Avg 32.129 mpg.
   
Even with Gas at $3.979 per gallon my gas costs are only ~12 cents per mile.
   
Saturn Hybrid Vue Records (for the 2007 Model) -
Best tank under 200 miles – 37.7mpg – Moms GL - Bob
Best Tank over 200 miles - 37.24mpg – Saturn Hybrid Vue
Farthest on a single tank without running out of gas: 561.9 miles – Saturn Hybrid Vue (I never overfill the tank.)
Most tanks in a row at 30mpg or better – 31 Tanks – Smokey – John
Most tanks in a row at 32mpg or better – 14 Tanks – Saturn Hybrid Vue
 
Here are my detailed stats:
88 out of the 103 tanks have averaged over 30mpg.
54 out of the 103 tanks have averaged over 32mpg.
22 out of the 103 tanks have averaged over 34mpg.
4 out of the 103 tanks have averaged over 36mpg.
MPG since 3/1/2008 - 33.71 mpg over 8,120 miles.
Cold Weather MPG (November 1 - February 28) – 30.73 mpg – 15,555 Miles
Warm Weather MPG (March 1 - October 31) – 32.89 mpg – 30,570 Miles
  
As you can see these numbers are well over the EPA estimates. The technology is there with this Hybrid. However, it is also ones driving style that allows you to get the most out of this or any vehicle. Keep in mind - smooth accelerations and stops allow the battery to do what it is designed to do - Assist and Charge.
 
“HybridVue gives some very good advice, despite being somewhat neurotic about his mileage (how is that for a back-handed compliment).” Thanks for the compliment. I enjoy the statistical take and analyzing the numbers. However, my neurosis only effects my analyzing of data. If you were driving behind me or sitting as a passenger you would not notice any of my techniques – just the smooth ride.
   
I love my Hybrid Vue.
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Re: The MPGs Keep Rising..... [hybridvue] by chmsomm
Jun 05, 2008 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: hybridvue (Jun 03, 2008 5:10 am)

Hello HybridVue,
 
I do not have people honking and screaming obscenities at me, even in Philadelphia, while I am driving. Yes, it is possible to drive, get good gas mileage, and not aggravate other drivers.
 
It is somewhat amusing when I pass people and they read the "hybrid" on the side or back of the vehicle. That includes Prius drivers, of which there are a substantial number in our area, even though they are not equivalent vehicles. Prius' seem to be everywhere.
 
I noticed a 2008 Hybrid Vue on the lot at our local dealership.
 
Have you heard anything about the 2008s?
 
Has Saturn solved the sometimes very serious electical problems?
 
Not a trivial issue.
 
It is too bad Saturn Corporate was not proactive in handling and correcting the electical problems on the 2007s.
 
They may have killed a good concept.
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Re: The MPGs Keep Rising..... [chmsomm] by hybridvue
Jun 06, 2008 (3:54 am)
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Replying to: chmsomm (Jun 05, 2008 7:13 pm)

To Chmsomm:
 
Your mpg's are very solid - best wishes in the future.
 
As for the 2008 - I have yet to test drive it. When I go to the dealer for my $50 oil change and tire rotation - they never seem to have one. So far, the jury is out on the 2008. It has been plagued by similar battery issues that some of the 2007's had. As a result, production has been limited. I have yet to see one on the highways and my other web site www.greenhybrid.com has yet to have anyone reporting real world mpgs.
 
I will let you know if I get any first hand info about the 2008's. As for me - I am waiting for the Plug in Vue in 2010 that probably will not arrive until 2012. At that point I should have about 175,000 miles on my Vue and it would be time for an upgrade.
 
Happy Driving.
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Re: The MPGs Keep Rising..... [hybridvue] by dmathews3
Jun 06, 2008 (4:49 am)
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Replying to: hybridvue (Jun 06, 2008 3:54 am)

Is the new Hybrid Malibu basically the same driveline as the Vue? Hope not, or this may do the same for GM hybrids as GM did for diesel engines of many years ago.
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Re: The MPGs Keep Rising..... [dmathews3] by chmsomm
Jun 06, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 06, 2008 4:49 am)

To my knowledge the 2008 Malibu, Vue, and Aura are all mild hybrids similar to the 2007 models.
 
I have seen no posts on the hybrid Malibu or Aura.
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Re: The MPGs Keep Rising..... [hybridvue] by kenmaternick
Jun 25, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: hybridvue (Jun 03, 2008 5:10 am)

Hi ! I'm thinking about buying a 2009 hybrid vue in the fall. My concern is that I will be using AC from May until November (Tucson, AZ)and wondering how much the AC affects the MPG. Is the AC good? Your story sounds like you spent a lot of time compling the info. I'd appreciate any info you might give me.
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Re: The MPGs Keep Rising..... [kenmaternick] by chmsomm
Jun 25, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: kenmaternick (Jun 25, 2008 10:23 am)

I commute 26 miles round trip to work, bumper to bumper through expressway. My mileage has been between 27-28 mpg. That is without AC.
 
Observation: In my opinion the AC in the green "eco" mode is worthless. The engine shut off is significantly shortened. I find the on/off of the engine in that mode of AC is actually irritating.
 
Therefore I use the AC in the non-eco mode. There is no engine shutoff at traffic lights. I find my mileage goes down to 23- 24 mpg for my suburban driving/commute.
 
   
PS: I do carpool with colleague who has a Honda CRV starting 3 weeks ago. My Vue Hybrid with the AC on gets better gas mileage than his CRV with the AC on by 4-5 mpg. To maximize your mileage read the posts by HybridVue and myself about charging the battery using the charge/assist method. There are some tricks to maximizing your mileage. Also read the posts regarding the electrical harness and battery problems with the 2007 model, that may affect your purchase decision.

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