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Replying to: rsutton (Aug 29, 2007 7:23 pm) Their mileage checks were 2-3 gallons. I'd thought gas was weight, and thus, the less gas in the tank, the better the mileage ought to be." If I understand your post correctly, they checked the MPG with 2 or 3 gallons used? That is an inaccurate check. One has to check for an entire tank. For the most accurate results, use the same gas station, same time of day, and same pump to fill up the entire tank. Then use that as the number of gallons, which is divided into the total miles. |
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Replying to: rsutton (Aug 29, 2007 7:23 pm) 10 Months of ownership - 22,817 Miles - 52 Fillups - Avg 31.87 mpg. Hybrid is driven about 90 miles to and from work each day with a combination of 50% highway and 50% stop and go. Best mpg 37.24 and worst 25.0 My average $2.648 per gallon of regular. Cost per mile for gas 8.31 cents. The summer months were great for this hybrid. A few interesting facts: My best tank averaged: 37.24mpg Farthest on a single tank without running out of gas: 557.5 miles that was also my best mpg tank 43 out of the 52 tanks have averaged over 30mpg. 26 out of the 52 tanks have averaged over 32mpg. 14 out of the 52 tanks have averaged over 34mpg. MPG since 3/1/2007 - 32.6 mpg over 17,000 miles. As you can see these numbers are well over the EPA estimates. The technology is there with this Hybrid. However, it is also ones driving style that allows you to get the most out of this or any vehicle. Keep in mind - smooth accelerations and stops allow the battery to do what it is designed to do - Assist and Charge. Granted some of the Hybrid Vues are having problems. However, I would love to test the ones that are getting low to mid 20's and see if it is really the Hybrid or the driver. By the way, if traffic allows - I am driving 65 - 70 mph zipping down the road. I am not the hypermiler that crawls (sometimes in the left lane) at 45 mph because that is the optimal speed to maximize mpg. I travel with the flow of traffic and I do it efficiently. I love my Hybrid Vue. 
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Replying to: hybridvue (Sep 27, 2007 7:17 am) For those who say you can not get good mpg in the winter - I am averaging over 32 mpg for the past 2600 miles. I live in Maryland - far from a warm weather state. BTW - my worse tank this winter was 28.05mpg. At 32,000 miles I brought the car in to for an oil change, new air filter, tire rotation and general inspection. Tires still have plenty of tread. I should be able to get over 60,000 on the original set. My Hybrid continues to perform better than advertised. No problems on this end for over a year. I wish everyone the same with theirs. I love my Hybrid Vue.
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Replying to: saturn_comm (Aug 29, 2007 4:20 am) Cruise control goes over speed and engages too quickly (to sensitive). I almost went into the ditch on a recent trip to Atlanta, in the rain the tires started to slip when it engaged. (They tell me it is a closed system and cannot be adjusted). The engine shuts off too quickly at stop signs (at traffic lights it is ok). Needs a 2 or 3 second delay. (Closed system and cannot be adjusted) Same thing when you go to shut it off, as soon as you move the shifter to park it starts the gas engine (needs a two second delay). Gas engine starts back up after only 12 seconds at stops. I have to charge the engine battery every night to get it backup to 18 to 20 seconds. (They have checked the battery and say it is fine). The windshield wiper (delay control is backwards 3 is fast and 1 is slow (every other car with it I have owned it is the opposite) on 1 the wiper goes when ever it wants to 10 seconds to 20 seconds and back to 5 seconds. In a light rain I either have to use 2 or not use the delay at all. (Closed system no adjustments) I worry that the problems will cause me to have a wreck, it is not that I need them that much, it is just you expect things to work on a new car. I really don't care about the mileage it is better than the SUV that I drive. But I feel that Saturn is not a different kind of company, just more of the same GM attitude (our cars are perfect) I just hope the people that build these don't have to drive them. I still have my old 96 Mazda MPV (over 130,000 miles) I drive it more and more. I really like the fact that things work, even if it gets 15 mpg. I wish I had been smart and bought a Toyota hybrid. Live and Learn! |
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Replying to: greenroger (Feb 14, 2008 1:14 pm) I'm sorry you are having issues with your Vue. I'd like to get you directly into contact with the proper person at Saturn who can best help with your situation. Please contact me at: michael.morrissey  saturn.com Sincerely, Mike Morrissey Manager, Saturn Product Communications |
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Replying to: greenroger (Feb 14, 2008 1:14 pm) The 12-second shutoff time is too short (as I'm sure you're aware). That issue needs to be addressed at your dealer. However, charging the engine battery in order to increase shutoff time is absolutely pointless. The 12VDC engine battery is not part of the hybrid system and is primarily there for engine starting only. There may be an issue with the hybrid battery, as many have had. This is the 36VDC battery under the rear shelf, and (obviously) cannot be charged at home. In addition, the early shutoff (such as at a stop sign) is incorporated with fuel shutoff during deceleration, so it can't (and certainly shouldn't) be adjusted. That's part of the hybrid driving experience. You seem to have many complaints about the car that could have been noticed during a thorough test drive, such as the wiper delay. I do agree that the cruise is rather abrupt to reengage, but certainly not enough to lose control of the vehicle.
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Watch your tire pressure folks. I lost 5-8 MPG with 25PSI in the tires. I pumped them up to 34 - 36 PSI and I am back up to 25 - 27 MPG, with mostly city and back roads driving. Highway I am 30+ MPG... I also tried a K&N air filter to boost MPG, but found that MPG actually went down. With the added air flow from the K&N thinking the opposite effect on MPG for the hybrid compared with a conventional engine. Any thoughts on this and theory's would be appreciated. Overall very happy with the VGL... |
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Replying to: tackepj (Feb 17, 2008 3:23 pm) I purchased a used 2004 Toyota Matrix SRX 6spd manual. this has the 180 hp motor. I drive stop and go city driving in Los angeles, I get between 23 and 24 mpg. I drive normally with flow of traffica and give it 2/3rds throttle to pass the big SUVs, Trucks and Busses blocking the road and belching exhaust fume. once and a while I'll red line it at 8,000 rpm in first. I never get into 5th or 6th gear. if I remember I will short shift, but this motors doesn't lke low rpm. and I never coast. In order to get close to the advertized mileage in hybred you have learn to drive and coast, low throttle. I don;t think it is worth it to drive this way when you can still get good mileage with a 4 cylinder manual car driving like normally. I thank everyone for confirming my original opinions about hybreds.
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Replying to: nagatahawk (Apr 02, 2008 10:16 am) I have a pontiac torrent 2007 and I get 16-17mpg in mixd 50/50 driving. The Vue is slightly smaller than my torrent but many here are getting 25mpg up to 34mpg depending on driving conditions . I don't know about you but a 10mpg increase is a great thing and the 2009 vue's and 2010 plug in vues should get better mileage. These hybrids are all new even the prius in comparison to the ICE set up . We are talking about a decade old system vs ice's that are over a 100 years old |
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I am driving a Honda Accord 4 cylinder and typically get 27 mpg winter and 29-30 summer (25 mile commute on back roads at about 50 mph). Doesn't sound like the Vue is a lot better. I used to drive Geo Metros (I've owned 4), but my wife wanted me to drive a car that was closer in mass to other vehicles on the road. (I've been married long enough to know pleasing my wife is smarter than saving on gas! I disagreed with her premise about safety. My son wrapped one Metro around a tree; car was totalled, but he and passenger were uninjured. I hit a deer and a few months later got hit in the left front by an SUV. Again, no injuries to me. So, I consider them to be safe.) You can't beat the mileage. My first one got 48 - 50 mpg. The others were closer to 45 - 48 mpg. Didn't seem to make a significant difference if I was driving in town or on the interstates. Only had a 10 gallon tank, but I could get to D. C. from Columbus, Ohio and part way home before filling up. All but one were 3 cylinder models. Not good for mountain terrain - hard to keep up to speed through West Virginia on the route from Columbus to Washington. I got stopped for speeding (70 mph) on a flat stretch, but told the officer I didn't see how that was possible as I couldn't do that without really pushing hard to keep the gas to the floor! BUT, for getting back and forth to work and even for some long trips for two people and luggage, they were great!
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