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Re: dasytime running lights [kellerr] by john_324
Jan 05, 2007 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: kellerr (Jan 05, 2007 7:30 am)

The problem with the rear fog lights is the same problem with front fog lights: the average driver doesn't have a clue when to properly use them.
 
On a given clear, dry evening, I see tons of people with all lights ablaze, even no there is no need to have fog lights of any kind illuminated.
 
It's really annoying to be blasted with a wall of light from the front, or be behind a vehicle that you're unsure if it's braking...
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Re: dasytime running lights [kellerr] by seminole_kev
Jan 05, 2007 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: kellerr (Jan 05, 2007 7:30 am)

Kellerr touches on something that I hate about some DRL arrangements. I do not like the ones were the headlights only come on, but the tailights do not. Unfortunately my new VW GTI is in this boat. It isn't a problem for me as I'm pretty vigilant about having my lights on (er...all the way on I guess) but I've seen lots of people tooling around in low light situations with only the headlights on. Fog is the worst because there's enough scattered light that they can see their guages, and their headlights are on, but if you come up from behind, you don't see them until the last second because the tailights aren't on.
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Re: drl [dranoel] by joewalls
Jan 17, 2007 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: dranoel (Nov 12, 2006 2:27 pm)

RE DRL. I noted you saisd you've done 3 of them. I assume you've installed the DRL in 3 vehicles? Well, if you have here is my dilemna. I just bought a 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe in the US and I mported it tp Canada where I reside. Why, because I save some U$5000+. In Canada the dealers have no competition. It's almost a cartel where MSRP prices are the rule of the day even if in the US rebate's of $1,000 are offered by the manufacturer via the dealer.
Anyway, I cannot get any Hyundai dealer to install the required DRL to allow me to register here. Do you know where I can get some help or instruction how to do this and what I need?
Appreciate hearing from you.
Joe
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Re: drl [joewalls] by 210delray
Jan 17, 2007 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: joewalls (Jan 17, 2007 3:41 pm)

Just wondering -- does the car have to be inspected? If not, I was thinking you could just always turn on your low-beam headlights every time you drive. There's no way to readily tell the difference during the daytime.
 
If there is inspection, surely an independent shop could rig up the headlights to come on every time you turn on the car. I'd get recommendations from friends, relatives, or co-workers.
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Re: dasytime running lights [john_324] by stmss
Jan 18, 2007 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: john_324 (Jan 05, 2007 7:51 am)

The rear fog light is the most useful of the fog lights. It is only on one side of the vehicle and shouldn't be confused with a brake light. I agree with front fogs - grossly over used. I am sure most people use them as they think they look cool!
 
I live in Canada and DRLs are a great safety feature. But the rear lights not going on is a problem. I am not sure why more manufacturers are not just going with auto lights (front and rear). I have these in my 99Volvo (have not used the light switch for 7 yrs!) my former Saab and even my new Ford.
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Re: dasytime running lights [stmss] by john_324
Jan 18, 2007 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: stmss (Jan 18, 2007 6:39 am)

No disagreement that fogs can be very useful, in the right circumstances.
 
I just hate how very few people...at least in the USA...maybe Canada has better drivers (which frankly, you'd almost have to...I can't imagine any drivers being worse than in the States... ) know when to properly use them.
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Re: dasytime running lights [john_324] by 210delray
Jan 18, 2007 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: john_324 (Jan 18, 2007 7:20 am)

Around here (central VA), we don't get fog all that often.
 
Yet, lots of vehicles run around at night with their front fog lights on -- it's the "look at me" factor.
 
One of my cars has fog lights -- I use them VERY rarely. I've found one neat trick though with them -- at night I flick them on and off (instead of the high beams) to let a passing tractor-trailer know it's okay to pull back into the right lane. It works, because some thank me with a quick flick of their taillights.
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Re: dasytime running lights [john_324] by stmss
Jan 18, 2007 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: john_324 (Jan 18, 2007 7:20 am)

I just hate how very few people...at least in the USA...maybe Canada has better drivers (which frankly, you'd almost have to...I can't imagine any drivers being worse than in the States
 
I think we are close - not very disciplined and very distracted, just fortunate maybe the volume is less.
 
But I think the front fog light fad is fading and now being replaced with a bigger menace - aftermarket bumper or grill driving lights - especially on the pickups and large suvs - blinding on rural two lanes.
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Re: dasytime running lights [stmss] by wale_bate1
Jan 18, 2007 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: stmss (Jan 18, 2007 11:05 am)

Amen.
 
Foggers are no big deal. Assuming they've been installed and aimed correctly, they shouldn't bother anyone coming or going, day or night. The aim is low and the spread wide to give definiton and contrast to the near roadway and periphery. Real ones are amber or rose, and should not only be aimed low, but mounted low.
 
Driving lights, OTOH, are meant for downfield viewing and are are aimed high, like extra high-beams. Most are also, BTW, illegal for on-road use.
 
Yeah, my low mounted, properly aimed foggers are on. I think they look cool, and to me, I'm right!
 
DRLs: I wish every car came with DRLs, whether they're separate low-beams, "demon-eyes" (I like), side markers, whatever. Too many morons are clueless about lighting at dawn and dusk, and need anti-idiot devices. The upgrade I definitely agree on with some here is that the tush should be so lamped as well as the front end.
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Re: dasytime running lights [wale_bate1] by avs007
Mar 07, 2007 (10:45 pm)
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Jan 18, 2007 1:44 pm)

Depends on your jurisdiction about the legality of driving lights on the road. The laws around here say that the restrictions for use of driving lights are the same as those for high-beams.
 
With that being said, if you can't turn your brights on becuase of oncoming cars, you can't have your driving lights on either. I hate people that leave them on and blind everybody.
 
I wish all DRLs came with auto headlights. I don't know how many people I encounter at night that only have their DRLs on, and not their headlights/tail-lights...
 
As far as GM auto-headlights being overly sensitive... You can adjust the sensitivity. At least that's what I did on mine... It's programmable.

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