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Freedom of Information Act by nadineb
Oct 24, 2009 (10:43 am)
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You should file under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). See if NHTSA got the information that Ford is suppose to release to them about costumer complaints. I bet they never got the information or Ford doctored the results.
 
Still would like to know if it was raining or had rained when people have problems.
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Re: Freedom of Information Act [nadineb] by chalkeight
Oct 24, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: nadineb (Oct 24, 2009 10:43 am)

THE DAY I LOST MY TRANNIE IT HAD RAINED FOR 3 DAYS PRIOR
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Re: 2005 Ford Freestar - Trans [tessbrou] by nadineb
Oct 24, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: tessbrou (Oct 24, 2009 7:02 am)

At our house, we switched from Chevy to Ford about fifteen years ago, but after this experience, I do not think that I would go back to Ford unless they did something to rectify this situation.
 
My husband will not have a foreign vehicle in our driveway, but if the American manufactures keep building these "junk" vehicles, we may not have any choice.
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Re: Freedom of Information Act [chalkeight] by nadineb
Oct 24, 2009 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: chalkeight (Oct 24, 2009 10:55 am)

I think the PCM and the transmission problems are all related, and I do not think that the Ford engineers know how to fix this dilemma. What bothers me is that Ford will not recall them.
 
Writing President Obama is a good thing to do. I wrote to the White House, but did not receive any response. Got a canned form letter from Biden's office. He was my Senator, I worked on his campaign, and many people in my family made contributions to his campaign. Really disappointed with the letter, but the more people who hear our voices, the better.
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Re: How to Contact me [jgenovese] by chalkeight
Oct 24, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: jgenovese (Sep 04, 2009 4:47 pm)

JIM I HAVRE BEEN CLICKING YOUR NAME TRYING TO LEAVE YOU A MESSAGE THE DIRECTIONS YOU SAID ABOUT CLICKING YOUR NAME DONT GET YOU THERE SO IF YOUR NOT GETTING ANY RESPONSES THEN THATS WHY LET US KNOW A BETTER WAT TO GET IN TOUCH OF YOU THANKS
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Re: How to Contact me [chalkeight] by nadineb
Oct 24, 2009 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: chalkeight (Oct 24, 2009 4:33 pm)

File a complaint with The Center for Auto Safety
"http://www.autosafety.org/fileacomplaint
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Re: Posting personal and third party contact information [jgenovese] by chalkeight
Oct 25, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: jgenovese (Sep 04, 2009 4:23 pm)

JIM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO POOL THERE MONEY TOGETHER AND HIRE AN ATTORNEY OR A GROUP AND GO AFTER THESE CROOKS,I KNOW BY READING THESES BLOGS THERE SOME OUT THERE EVEN THOSE THAT HAVE PAID TO GET THERES FIXED THEY SHOULD BE WILLING TO DO THIS YOU SEEM LIKE THE PERSON EVERYONE IS TALKING TO IAM MORE THAN WILLING TO GIVE YOU A HAND AND GET THIS THING ROLLING IAM SO UPSET WITH ALL THIS TRANSMISSION REPAIR PEOPLE ACT LIKE THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS PROBLEM AND WE ALL KNOW Y SO THEY CAN GET YOUR VAN AND TEAR IT APART BEFORE THEY TELL US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW SORRY FOR VENTING IAM WILLING RIGHT NOW TO GIVE 500.00 TOWARDS AN ATTORNEY OR GRUOP OF THEM THINK ABOUT IT IF WE GET HALF OF 178 THAT WOULD MAKE A GOOD RETAINER LET ME KNOW IAM IN INDIANA WILLING TO TRAVEL AND YES I DO WORK AT LEAST 10 HOURS A DAY BUT I CANNOT TAKE THESE CROOKS DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING SOME PEOPLE ON HEAR HAS PUT 2 OR MORE TRANNIES I THERE VAN LET ME KNOW I WOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE PHONE NUMBERS LET GET THIS ROLLING
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Re: Posting personal and third party contact information [chalkeight] by nadineb
Oct 25, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: chalkeight (Oct 25, 2009 8:46 am)

When I spoke to an attorney in May, he told me that it would take $300,000.00 to start a class action lawsuit.
 
First, I think we need to let NHTSA do their work. There are two investigations underway so they will have their engineers look at these transmissions, and make a determination. They have the power to make Ford issue the recall.
 
You could take Ford to court yourself and sue them. I think that we should all file claims at one time, and make them send all those lawyer to all the different states to defend these claims. How funny would that be? More funny, how much money would it cost them?
 
Each state has a different amount of time that you can file a claim. In my state, it is three years. I still have about two and half years left. I do not intend to wait that long, but you also have to have all your ducks line up in a row to win the fight. In the end, I believe that we all want to see the problem corrected.
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Re: Posting personal and third party contact information [chalkeight] by jgenovese
Oct 25, 2009 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: chalkeight (Oct 25, 2009 8:46 am)

Be patient everybody. I don't want to get kicked off of the site. We will come up w/ a better way to communicate about a class action.
 
In the meantime, follow Nadine's advice and file complaints/reports with the organizations/government agencies that she lists. Also, contact all of your representatives in Congress, your local attorney general, any consumer advocate group you can think of, and, of course, your local media outlets.
 
I am 100% in agreement with Nadine that something, wether it is a recall or a class action, will happen soon. Keep the faith, spread the word about these vans, especially to other families who drive them and who may not know about this potentially deadly defect, and stay tuned to this website!
 
Jim Genovese
Annapolis, MD
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Re: Torque Converter Re Design [oilandwater] by jroyse
Oct 26, 2009 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: oilandwater (Oct 23, 2009 4:19 am)

I was worried about the replacement transmission failing also. Still do. However I looked on the NHTSA website: www.safercar.gov under investigation #PE09-033 and you can view the documents related to the case.
 
Basically for a defect investigation the NHTSA receives the safety concerns from consumers (us with failed transmissions!) and compiles them and other questions into a document request of Ford. You can view all the questions and most of the public responses Ford offers the NHTSA. I am going to summarize here, please read it for yourself. But among one of them is under a routine inspection of failed parts Ford analyzed the torque converter spine shaft and found it was basically not heat-treated correctly. Someone obviously dropped the ball there - They didn't make that many of this type of van so my guess when they go to rebuild the transmission they go and find a new torque converter spline shaft - not one off the shelf from 2003, so odds are the replacement is heat-treated correctly and won't leave your loved ones on the side of the highway during rush hour with an infant in the back seat like the non heat-treated torque shafts. Sorry for the snark.
 
If you read closer into the docs that Ford submitted to the NHTSA you can find that Ford admits to only testing a small sample of 2% of failed parts to analyze the reason for failure. I understand that. But what is really funny is the dealership and Ford service department relationship. Read the reply from Ford to the NHTSA and you can find that Ford basically doesn't read what the dealer wrote under the suspected cause of failure or shop notes. I think it must be some type of corporation litigious firewall. As a company that makes them a bit indifferent to parts failures- they basically don't want to know why the part failed, if they did they would be reading what dealers/customers reports when their vehicles are breaking down and getting fixed. If you really wanted to be on top of quality control you would leverage that relationship with the dealer- because they could gather information on how to make the vehicles better.
 
My 2 cents.

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