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Freedom of information by nadineb
Jul 04, 2009 (7:30 am)
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I received a response from NHTSA about my request for Freedom of Information (FOIA) about the Freestar. Here is their response:
 
All of the information we have that is responsive to your request is available on the agency's website at www.nhtsa.dot.gov as follows: For consumer complaints, go to the website given above. At the top of the page, click on "Vehicle/Equipment" and proceed as follows: Under "Quick Clicks," click on "Recalls, Defects and Complaints Databases." Click on the radio knob to the left of the word "Vehicle." Click on "Search Selected Type," to get to the next screen. Use the "drill down" search method in the middle of the screen, to select the year vehicle to be searched. Follow the directions to obtain the information you seek.
 
For recall information, go to the website given above. At the top of the page, click on "Vehicle/Equipment" and proceed as follows: Under "Browse Topics, click on "Recalls/Defects," Under "Related Links" on the right, click on "View All Equipment Recalls,"Under "Recalls, "click on "Search for a Recall." Click on the radio knob to the left of the word "Vehicle." Click on "Search Selected Type," to get the next screen. Use the "drill down" search method in the middle of the screen, to select the year vehicle to be searched. Follow the directions to obtain the information you seek.
 
I am sending an appeal because this does not provide any information in regards to NHTSA's responsibility or Ford's to report defects in motor vehicles.
 
With so many complaints, you would think that NHTSA would have done something a long time ago.
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Torque Converter bad on my Freestar by lhatchel
Jul 06, 2009 (8:30 am)
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I had my 2004 Freestar towed from my regular mechanic who says the transmission needs to be rebuilt to my local Ford Dealer who says that it is the Torque Converter and they have seen it before. When I said something to the Ford mechanic about the Freestar having alot of problems he did not confirm it either way but had no answer. It was interesting. My Ford Dealership, Dale Jarrett Ford, is working with me to help cut the costs. They had the part overnighted at their cost and my van should be repaired tomorrow at a small fee of $1300+. I guess this is better than the $3000 to rebuild the trans.
 
I cannot send the parts to the torque converter to NHTSA because they need it for a core but I am going to take a picture of the part and send that to them. Hopefully we can get some action from the NHTSA. The more complaints filed the better we will be.
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Re: Torque Converter bad on my Freestar [lhatchel] by misty10
Jul 06, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: lhatchel (Jul 06, 2009 8:30 am)

We also have a 2004 and it was the torque converter. It was mostly labor cost to replace it. Ours happened at 79,000 miles. I send these posts to Ford everytime I receive one...they know but just won't own up to it. Good luck!
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Defect Investigations Summary by nadineb
Jul 06, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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I have posted a copy of the Defect Investigations Summary that NHTSA opened in regards to my Freestar. When I search the 2004 model, it only shows there is one complaint.
 
In my opinion, you need to demand a hearing for them to open an investigation. I know that someone else on the list has received an email from NHTSA, please keep us posted as to what they are doing. Also, please ask for the hearing.
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Defect Investigations Summary
Make: FORD
Model: FREESTAR CONVERSION
Year: 2004
NHTSA Action Number: DP09004
Summary:
ON MAY 6, 2009, NHTSA RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR "A HEARING THROUGH TITLE 49 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, CHAPTER 301, MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY, PART 557." THE REQUEST WAS IN REFERENCE TO VEHICLE OWNER COMPLAINT, 10266067, FILED WITH NHTSA ON APRIL 20, 2009, WHICH DESCRIBED A PROBLEM WITH ENGINE STALL IN A MODEL YEAR (MY) 2004 FORD FREESTAR MINIVAN DUE TO WATER ENTERING THE PCM. PART 557 OF TITLE 49 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, ESTABLISHES PROCEDURES FOR HOLDING A HEARING TO DETERMINE WHETHER A MANUFACTURER HAS REASONABLY MET ITS OBLIGATION TO NOTIFY OWNERS OF A SAFETY RELATED DEFECT. BECAUSE A SAFETY RELATED DEFECT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED REGARDING THE ALLEGED DEFECT IN MY 2004 FORD FREESTAR VEHICLES, THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION IS INTERPRETING THE REQUEST AS A DEFECT PETITION UNDER PART 552 OF TITLE 49 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS. A DEFECT PETITION HAS BEEN OPENED TO ASSESS WHETHER THERE IS EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT OPENING A SAFETY DEFECT INVESTIGATION CONCERNING THE ALLEGED DEFECT IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES.
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Stranded in Chatanooga by paintman1
Jul 07, 2009 (6:52 am)
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We are another unfortunate family who was stuck on the side of the highway because our 2005 Ford Freestar transmission went out. We were traveling home to St. Louis from our vacation in Florida when our transmission just went out. Luckily we were going downhill in Chattanooga when it just went into neutral and was gone. I can't imagine my fear if we would have been headed uphill in the mountains. We had 85,000 miles on it and of course the warrantee was expired. It cost us a hotel night stay and $375 in U-Haul rental to tow it back to St. Louis. I really believe this transmission issue needs to be addressed by Ford because if someone hasn't died yet due to this dangerous safety issue someone may soon. After reading some of your posts I feel horrible for some of you who only got 40,000 miles out of your transmission, at least I got 85,000 miles and a rebuilt tranny for $2100.00. I'm very frustrated because I liked my freestar but now I don't know what to expect and still owe on it for another year.
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Re: Stranded in Chatanooga [paintman1] by mercurystinks
Jul 07, 2009 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: paintman1 (Jul 07, 2009 6:52 am)

An update. Just got a call from the transmission shop. The torque converter in my 2004 Monterey totally blew and ruined the transmission when it sent metal splines throughout. The whole thing has to be redone and will cost me about $2,300 which is bad but actually less expensive than I'm hearing Ford dealers are charging people for the same problem. And the gentleman at the shop said that if I had Ford redo it, they'd reuse the same bad parts and I'd probably have the same problem in a few years. His transmission and torque converter is heavy duty and is warrantied for any problems. He also said Ford used the absolute cheapest looking torque converter in this vehicle and he has seen many issues with these especially on Freestars, Montereys, Windstars, Tauruses, and Sables.
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more than torque control by lhatchel
Jul 07, 2009 (10:08 am)
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Well my Ford dealership called me today and told me that it was more than the Torque control and that I would need a Remanufactured Transmission. Of course I called Ford with a glimmer of hope that they may do something. Their scripted answer was "Since your 3 year/36000 mile warranty is expired I am sorry but there is nothing we can do for you". Now I am frantically trying to find $3000 to get the reman trans. I owe $378 on this vehicle. Now I will be paying for it for another 6 months. I was so looking forward to no car payment. I guess 6 months is better than 6 years. The reman trans comes with a 3 year/100,000 mile warranty. Why can they do that for a reman trans but not the trans that comes with the new vehicle. I guess because they know something will go wrong and they are going to get another $3000 out of us.
 
NHTSA has asked me to send them my tranny parts and I am going to do that. Anything can help. However, until they get 10,000's of complaints there is probably nothing they can do.
 
There is only hope.
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Re: more than torque control [lhatchel] by mercurystinks
Jul 07, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: lhatchel (Jul 07, 2009 10:08 am)

Sounds like exactly what happened to mine. If the torque's failure is massive, it ruins the tranny, too. Some people are lucky and can just replace the torque. But in a weird kind of way, I'm almost happy I'm getting the whole damn thing redone by a true, NON-Ford pro. Maybe, just maybe, I'll actually make it to 100,000 miles with this thing like you can do with practically any imported car with far fewer problems. I'm a little concerned for you that I think you said you're having it done at a Ford dealer. From what my local guy told me, they'll just give you the same crappy, lame parts which will probably fail again in another couple of years. My guy is giving me a super heavy duty torque converter and redone tranny and I'm only paying $2,300.
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Re: more than torque control [mercurystinks] by nadineb
Jul 07, 2009 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: mercurystinks (Jul 07, 2009 12:52 pm)

From everything that I have read, you need to get a larger transmission put into the vehicle. The original was too small for the vehicle.
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Re: Defect Investigations Summary [nadineb] by msq1224
Jul 08, 2009 (5:03 am)
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Replying to: nadineb (Jul 06, 2009 6:40 pm)

How did you request the hearing? My complaint was filed with NHTSA ~18 months ago, and I was told that their preliminary review indicated no further investigation was warranted. When I asked about the appeal process I was told there was none!

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