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Ford Freestar, Mercury Monterey, Transmission, Van
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#1096 of 1927 Re: 2005 Ford Freestar [oilandwater]
Feb 01, 2010 (5:29 pm)
You are correct. The difference here is that the CEO of Toyota himself, who's last name is Toyoda, issued a statement accepting responsibility for the sudden acceleration issue and, in traditional honorable fashion, "fell on his sword." It reminds me of when Chrysler got caught tampering w/ odometers on executive vehicles to sell them as new. Instead of denying it and turning away from it like the cowards at Ford, then chairman Lee Iacocca, went public admitting the seemingly inexplicable action and accepted full responsibilty for it. He actually described the behavior as "Stupid." The difference here is honor.
I teach my kids every day that, at the end of the day, honor and integrity are all that you have. Once you lose either in the eyes of your family, teachers, friends, public, etc., you can never get it back.
Ford has demonstrated, clearly, that they don't have either honesty or integrity and likely never will. As for Toyota, your situation not withstanding, they have taken the first step in what will likely be a long journey back. The key is that they took the step. I intend to be one of many who will take that journey with them.
In contrast, Ford came to that very same crossroads and decided to to take a quick left turn and bailed out, slithering off into the darkness.
We have said over and over in this forum, what a different end this story could have had. Instead of a classic tale of redemption and lessons in honor to pass on to future generations, it is a tale of hubris, greed, and fraud.
What a shame.
#1097 of 1927 Re: Ford CEO interviewed on CNN [nadineb]
Feb 01, 2010 (5:35 pm)
I doubt Mr Mulally has ever had to drive himself or his family anywhere. What I have heard from him so far has been unimpressive, to be kind. That's OK. It is just a matter of time before this story gets picked up. If handled correctly, it could easily make some enterprising reporter or anchor's entire career, especially now, against the backdrop of Toyota's situation.
Again, however they got here, Toyota is stepping up in a HUGE way.
Ford, in stark contrast, has not.
#1098 of 1927 Hydraulic Control Unit problems?
Feb 02, 2010 (12:09 pm)
Hello. I have a 2004 Freestar with about 75K miles. I have had issues for months now with the error message "Check Trac Control" and then "Check Tires" coming up. I have read many of the posts here and did see that a few times but am wondering if anyone else has had this diagnosed at the Hydraulic Control Unit?
Sometimes the car runs fine - other times I feel like I am fighting it will everything! Feels like the car is "tripping" if that makes sense...
We had some mechanics look at it - try replacing sensors etc - and they finally said that the dealer needed to run diagnostic. They told me it is the Hydraulic Control Unit and it has to be replaced (of course not covered on my powertrain warrantee) for about $2700-$3000.
My car did once just turn off while I was driving last fall (not raining at the time) and I was basically told it was a fluke. It started back up but VERY scary! I am afraid I am going to experience what some others have posted here!
#1099 of 1927 Re: Hydraulic Control Unit problems? [cmrooney]
Feb 02, 2010 (1:53 pm)
Look at the PCM. If water got on the computer, it can cause all types of issues.
#1100 of 1927 Re: Hydraulic Control Unit problems? [cmrooney]
Feb 02, 2010 (2:30 pm)
I too have had problems with lights popping on my dash - traction control and tires. Took this LEMON back to the dealership many times with no fix. After my warranty ran out, I gave out. Will have to ask about the hydraulic control unit.
#1101 of 1927 Re: Just talked to Va Attorney General's Office [cowboys59]
Feb 02, 2010 (3:03 pm)
I to live in Newport News Virginia area and my 2004 Ford Freestar Transmission failed without warning on Jan. 10th (79,500 miles) as I was slowly pulling away from a stop light at about 15 mph.
Can you update me on what you were able to accomplish through the Virginia Attorney General's office?
Thanks in advance?
#1102 of 1927 Re: Just talked to Va Attorney General's Office [smtmuny]
Feb 02, 2010 (3:38 pm)
Don't forget NHTSA and the Center for Auto Safety! Each report is crucial.
#1103 of 1927 Write a complaint letter to Ford [jgenovese]
Feb 02, 2010 (4:49 pm)
Ford should receive a letter of complaint. If you feel that your safety was jeopardized, you should make that statement loudly. The letter Ford submitted to NHTSA makes the point that safety is not the issue, money is the source of the complaint. While money is a part of the complaint, I believe that safety is the bigger issue.
Ford and NHTSA need to get the message!
#1104 of 1927 Correlating Dealership visits with Transmission Problems
Feb 02, 2010 (4:55 pm)
Can everyone posting under this forum give the date of your last dealership service/repair visit PRIOR to the date of your transmission failure OR pronounced transmission operation? Why am I asking for this information? With slow U.S. auto sales over the past 5 years or so, I honestly believe their are some dealership technicians THAT WILL "TWEEK YOUR FREESTAR" in a different area (most cases their repair or service work is warranted for 12 months) so as to cause a failure in the near future THUS ENSURING THEY ARE KEPT BUSY (job security) as the dealership continues to make money on maintenance repairs or trade-ins. Would you say transmission work is the probably the #1 or #2 most expensive work next to major engine repairs or replacements? So again in closing, can everyone go back and correlate the last dealership repair/service visit date with the date of the transmission failure or pronounced transmission abnormal operation?
#1105 of 1927 Re: Correlating Dealership visits with Transmission Problems [smtmuny]
Feb 02, 2010 (9:52 pm)
We purchased our van in 2008. It was almost a year to the date when the back hatch would not open, and from there the vehicle went downhill fast (no pun intended).
This is an interesting question, but I personally do not think that it was the technicians tweaking the vehicle. My problem with the vehicle has been documented in other vehicles, except other manufactures have repaired the defect in order to prevent crashes unlike Ford.
I believe that if I had taken my vehicle to the dealership first instead of my trusted mechanic, then I would have a new transmission. Instead, taking it to the dealership, I received an abundance amount of emotional stress fearing for my safety, large bills for unsatisfactory repairs, and towing costs, too.