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Mitsubishi Montero, SUV
#70 of 2830 Montero
Oct 26, 2000 (1:39 pm)
Why reliability is the concern? Read all the posts that have misubishi in it and you will not find problems. Actiually, there are some, but it is not as global as other makes. Mitsubishi hid some recall info, but it was more of the "image" thing and the most outraged was the government, not the customers. I did my homework too, as in post #59, Lexus RX300 was my first choice, than ML320, 4Runner Limited and the last one Durango. After Lexus was eliminated from my plans, I looked at 2000 Montero Endeavour. I knew that new model was coming up, so I decided to wait a bit. When 2001 came out (I had a chance to drive it before dealers did) my list got very short. I bought 2001 Limited and I am positive that it will perform as the top names or better.
#71 of 2830 Montero reliability
Oct 27, 2000 (2:56 pm)
In response to post #61:
That was my post that was quoted in #59.
The reasons reliability is a concern to me include:
1. First year model. I know Mitsubishi tests the new Montero components at the Dakar rallies prior to incorperating them inon their "civilian" vehicles, which eases the worry a little. Always nervous about a completely redesigned first year model though....
2. I agree with your assessment of the Mistubishi cover up thing. Mitsubishi was taking care of the problems (hence the lack of dissatified owners), they just weren't reporting the problems to the government. Disappointing on Mitsubishi's part, but I can live with it.
3. Looking at reliability data (consumer reports, message boards) its my opinion (and I am not an expert by any means) that Mitsubishi is better than American manufacturers with regard to reliability, but lags behind Toyota and possibly Nissan as well, but probably better than Isuzu.
4. With regard to performance, I agree with you one hundred percent. I think the Montero outclasses all its competitors with the exception of the Landcruiser, but when you look at value, I think the Toyota is way overpriced (for that matter, so is the 4runner).
I have close to 3000 miles on mine, and I absolutely love it. No problems with it at all, so far. Always looking for reasons to drive it; can't wait 'til it snows. Hope it stays this way...Now if I could just find a way to keep my wife from driving it so much (she loves it too) and periodically saddling me with the damn minivan........
#72 of 2830 Montero
Oct 27, 2000 (4:31 pm)
It is not first year, not really. It is the first year with the steering wheel mounted on the left. It was introduced in Japan and Australia 2 years ago. Is it lagging in quality behind the Toyota? not sure, but possible. Is it laggaing behind the Nissan? absolutely not. In the "tief" market Montero is second after the Land Cruiser. Toyota is spending way more money on advertising and its market share is bigger than Mitsubishi, however, in Asia Mitsubishi is considered on of the best. Main reason DC bought Mitsu it was to get technology and access to the asian market. It is little known that Mitsu is one of the most innovating automotive companies, but their financial moves always make them to sell patents instaed of utilizing them. The latest example is GDI engine.
I did scout the net, searching for problems (problems that affect the consumers) and could not find much. I found more about Toyota and Mercedes than about Mitsubishi. I had started topic here some time ago "Problems with Mitsubishi", that was frozen due to the lack of response. Try alldata.com
#73 of 2830 Montero Reliability
Oct 27, 2000 (10:56 pm)
In terms of reliability I'd say the Montero is about the best I could find from my research. It is made in Japan. One can take a look at its quality, fit and finish and see the difference. As far as the other Japs go (Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Mazda) I have notice that the quality and reliability have gone down significantly since they started building their vehicles in North America. I've had Honda's that were built both from Japan and the US. Boy, can you tell the difference.
Ten years ago(give or take) I thought it was unheard of for a company like Honda or Toyota to have recalls, defects, poor reliability, quality issues, customer complaints, hundreds of service bullitens per model. Today, just take a look at the NHSTA web site and you won't believe your eyes. To prove my point compare models still built in Japan (not many) and those made in the US. Night and day. Enough to make me take back my deposit on a new Honda Odyssey mini-van and buy the Mitsubishi.
The Montero is built like all the JAP cars used to be in the good old days.
#74 of 2830 reliability
Oct 28, 2000 (1:33 am)
A relative of mine bought a imported 1994 model Pajero or Montero as you call it. Last year or so, the front brake failed twice because of bursted hose. We found out this year that those brake hose were listed as one of those unreported problem. So saying that there is a lack of dissatisfied owner is completely wrong. It's downright irresponsible. You don't get dissatisfied owner here, you might have dead owner instead.
Some problems might be minor but there are some that's too great to ignore. Brake hose bursting would very well listed as No.1 serious problem. How low could you get?
Having said that. Many of my other friends uses them but I personally don't like Pajero. But would agree that generally, they are extremely tough and well built vehicle and I am impressed.
Oct 28, 2000 (2:36 am)
Glad to hear mostly good things about the Montero. All of your insights are very helpful. I research things quite a bit before buying.
I understand the comment about the difference behind Honda/Acura cars built here vs in Japan. I have a GSR (build in Jap). One hell of a solid car. I have driven it sporty for the last 90K and it still doesnt have a thing wrong with it.
I am going with the Montero LTD. Could have gone LC but I am going to put that into my childs college fund (I hope the returns will be much greater here).
I hope I am making the right choice.
I am having difficulty finding aftermarket parts for the Montero, can anyone help?
Lets start a list here of places people have found good aftermarket parts for the Montero. There does not seem to be many. Thanks,
#76 of 2830 Montero
Oct 28, 2000 (2:48 am)
According to the investigation related to the Mitsubishi cover up, there were 3 accident directly related to the porous and/or bursting hoses. In 2 accidents, people just walked away, in one-one person was in the hospital, overnight, for observation. Bursting hose is not pretty, however, it is not like you are loosing control 100%. Probably, in all recalls, recent Ford Explorers failure is the most appealing. Even though many of those accidents are linked to the Firestone, there is some data that points to other tires failing on Explorers more than on the other makes. Same goes for the Firestones, they were failing mostly on Exploreres, but not on F-150 or other makes. This is scary, however, it is well documented. I prefer my Montero with it's shamefull cover up, instead of Explorer that is very well recalled and published, but nobody really knows the whole truth about the REAL cause. 3 accidents vs. 112 people dead and dozens of injured??? I will take Montero anytime.
#77 of 2830 Montero
Oct 28, 2000 (2:57 am)
There is a great aftermarket company, Jaso (if i remember correctly, Australian company that makes really nice stuff for all makes and models, but it is not cheap. e.g. they have bumper protectors (stainless steel) for about $500. I found towing hitch from US company(did not ordered that yet) for $230 instead of dealers $450.
#78 of 2830 Montero Reliabilty
Oct 28, 2000 (3:23 am)
Man, this is a touchy subject!! Almost starting to look like the ML site....
alex, I wasn't aware that the limited was out in Japan for two years--I thought it had been tested at Dakar; didn't realize it was in production in Japan. That is reassuring. The Japanese version, from my understanding, uses a more sophisticated engine not available in the U.S. because of higher sulphur content in American gas...(Is that why our farts smell worse here than in Japan?? Sorry....) The old engine, in the U.S. Montero, is tried and true (although underpowered) and should be reliable. I agree with you that Mitsubishi is one of if not the most underrated car manufacturers--one of the reasons I bought the Montero.
I have found a website with Montero problems--the Montero suv site. One of the reasons I like the Montero so much is there are so few of them--I think only 30,000 Montero ltd's this year in the U.S. I have not seen many compared to other types of SUV's on the road. I think that it stands to reason that since there are relatively few, there will be fewer complaints--not because there aren't some problems, but because there are so few vehicles. Just comparing the Montero message boards to other SUV boards bears this out; the Montero board (until recently) is not nearly as active--with complaints or general comments.
Kongh, I did not mean to insinuate that there were NO dissatified owners. There has never been and never will be a vehicle made that everyone will be satisfied with...With any given vehicle, no matter how well built, there will be individual vehicles with severe problems--laws of averages. To me, in the overall scheme of things, Mitsubishi's lack of reporting is a relatively minor issue--agree with alex's post above. I by no means condone it, but I don't necessarily beleive it indicates a major coverup of design faults in Mitsubishi products.
Steve, good luck with the Montero--I love mine, and went through similar reasoning you did with regard to LC. Absolutely no regrets to date.
Sorry for the long post, but it's really nice to see this site getting alot of use--hope it continues!
#79 of 2830 whcih mitsubishi are we talking about?
Oct 28, 2000 (4:37 am)
i looked at the 2001 montero,it has seats for 7, i think this site really supports this car maker, you should see what the jeep grand cherokkee site says about the jeep, they all seem lke lemons, but sounds like folks have had good luck with the mitsubishi. i really liked this car, tho a bit bigger than i may need.anyone have any other advice to offer?