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Jeep Wrangler Tires and Wheels

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Re: death wobble [tracy3999] by erickpl
May 21, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: tracy3999 (May 20, 2008 5:24 pm)

There are a lot of posts on this and the Jeep Wrangler thread about 'death wobble'.
 
If you are not lifted, I would suspect either the tires are seriously out of balance and/or alignment. Easy fix - get em balanced and aligned or replace with better tires. Other causes may be loose steering components (tie rod, drag link, etc). If the dealer hasn't heard of death wobble, chances are you should find another dealer to work with. It can happen. Another possibility could be the tie rod ends and the holes they mount into are not as tight as they should be.
 
You may also want to make sure your control arms and shocks are all in good order. A competent mechanic should be able to find loose or worn steering components.
 
-Paul
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Re: death wobble [tracy3999] by sgreer721
Jun 20, 2008 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: tracy3999 (May 20, 2008 5:24 pm)

I have the same issue with the shaking at 50-55 mph. '04 Wrangler w/Rocky Mountain package, no lift kit or modifications. I had the steering damper replaced at 39,000 miles and it was fine. Now at 51,000 miles, it is starting to do it again. The alignment is fine, tires are balanced. The mechanic at the Jeep dealer now says its my tires (Goodyear Wrangler GS-A) and not my steering damper. Same tires since day one. I have asked them to check bushings, tie rods, etc and they shake their head at me with that "you are a girl so you have no idea what you are talking about" look. Anyone else have problems with these tires or does Jeep just make shoddy steering dampers?
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Re: death wobble [sgreer721] by erickpl
Jun 23, 2008 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: sgreer721 (Jun 20, 2008 12:11 pm)

Steering dampeners/stabilizers only mask the issue and will not be the cause.
 
The GSA's COULD be a problem as some tires just come the factory out of round and no balancing or aligning will stop that.
 
Checking the bushings, TRE's, and all joints in the steering for looseness (including the trackbar mount on the frame) are all valid things to check.
 
Get rid of those GSA's and get some BFG AT's (if you're staying on road) and hopefully things will be better.
 
-Paul
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Need new tires..what's good? by sahara991
Jun 23, 2008 (8:56 am)
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This is my 1st jeep..99 sahara. It came with mud tires that are pretty well spent & want to put something that is good for road mostly, not so noisy & rough, it has 16" rims & 3" lift on it. What do you suggest???
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Wobbles and Tires by matt1320
Jun 27, 2008 (5:06 pm)
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My '00 TJ was ordered with optional 30x9.50 R-15 GY GSA's on 15x8 alloy wheels. The factory tires were making "growling" noise and thumping when at cruising speed. Problem was diagnosed by mechanic, and concurred by tire dealer, as broken belts in 3 of 4 tires on ground. The GSA's slipped in the rain and offered no traction in the snow. The GSA's were replaced at 32,000 mi. in 2-'03 with 31x10.50 R-15 BFG AT K/O's (including spare). The BFG's were chosen due to positive experience with them on my previous '92 YJ. The 31's fit the TJ well, only minor tire rub on lower control arm when at full turn lock. Four 31's were replaced in12-'07 at 90,000 mi(balance & rotate at each oil change). It is a reasonable compromise to a highway tire and a mud tire. It also meets the Rubber Manufacturer's Assoc. Severe Snow Condition criteria and wears the mountain/snowflake badge on the side wall. Other tires that have this rating are the Goodyear Fortera TripleTred, General Grabber AT2, and ProComp All Terrain. Steering stabilizer and shock absorbers begin to fade around 50,000 miles. If not doing anything "extreme", the premium Gabriel or Monroe units will be a marked improvement over stock. Hope my rant helps.
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Re: Wobbles and Tires [matt1320] by mac24
Jun 27, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: matt1320 (Jun 27, 2008 5:06 pm)

My experience has been the same. Factory fitted 30x9.50 R-15 GY GSAs replaced at 30K with 31x10.50 R-15 BFG AT K/Os which will shortly be replaced at 90K. My rotation and balance schedule has also been every 3K
 
An excellent tire on virtually all surfaces, on and off road, wet or dry, except for deep or squishy mud.
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Jeep Wrangler Gear Ratio Changes with bigger Tires by relgnarwpeej
Sep 18, 2008 (3:22 pm)
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I just bought a used 2003 Wrangler X....I'm a newbie to these multi-faceted man mobiles....for now. In anycase, my current tire size is the stock 215 75R15, and I'm thinking of upgrading to 31x10.5x15 without lift. Does anyone know what else needs to be done to ensure a smooth ride? I've heard the gear ratio will change and there is something we can do about that (a sensor in the transmission needs to be changed), but no one seems to know exactly what - - not even the JEEP Dealer!! Please elaborate if you know.....Thanks.
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Re: Jeep Wrangler Gear Ratio Changes with bigger Tires [relgnarwpeej] by erickpl
Sep 19, 2008 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: relgnarwpeej (Sep 18, 2008 3:22 pm)

31's won't be that big of a deal. 30's were available options from the dealer. Your gear ratio will not change, but your performance may be slightly impacted.
 
There is a speedometer gear you can change out. It is based on your tire size and your differential gearing. Likely you have 3.73 gearing in your differential. There are several speedometer gear charts/applications on the web that will tell you what you need. Generally, with a 1" change, it won't be a big deal as far as accuracy.
 
http://www.teraflex.biz/tech/faq/speedometer-gear-chart/
 
I'm not sure what the stock tooth count is for a 3.73-geared TJ. Your invoice/build sheet will tell your stock gearing (assuming it hasn't been changed).
 
As a comparison, I have an SE geared at 4.10 stock. I was on 30's and the speedo was off (geared for 28" tires). I regeared to 4.88 and added 33's. My speedo gear is actually more accurate than it was with the 30's.
 
-Paul

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