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193 messages, Last post on Sep 26, 2009 at 5:22 AM
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Im starting to have the Bad Death wobble!!! I have 2004 jeep wrangler sport.. It does not have a lift kit on it.. the only thing the tires are a little bigger than the orginal once that came with the jeep!! My jeep only has 18,000 miles on it!! When i first bought it i had know problems with it, after a month or so.. it has started to bounce out of control just when i hit 50, 55 miles an hour!! Im sooo sad i love my jeep and not sure what the problem is.. i have heard many people talk about the death wobble but know one really knows why.. or gives a real solution why this is happening !! I have just dropped it off to a jeep dealer and they said that they have never heard of this problem!! Great .. i can only imagine what this is going to cost me!!! Is their any one out their that can give me a reason not a run around? Thank you soooo much.. Please help..
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Replying to: tracy3999 (May 20, 2008 5:24 pm) If you are not lifted, I would suspect either the tires are seriously out of balance and/or alignment. Easy fix - get em balanced and aligned or replace with better tires. Other causes may be loose steering components (tie rod, drag link, etc). If the dealer hasn't heard of death wobble, chances are you should find another dealer to work with. It can happen. Another possibility could be the tie rod ends and the holes they mount into are not as tight as they should be. You may also want to make sure your control arms and shocks are all in good order. A competent mechanic should be able to find loose or worn steering components. -Paul |
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Replying to: tracy3999 (May 20, 2008 5:24 pm)  Anyone else have problems with these tires or does Jeep just make shoddy steering dampers?
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Replying to: sgreer721 (Jun 20, 2008 12:11 pm) The GSA's COULD be a problem as some tires just come the factory out of round and no balancing or aligning will stop that. Checking the bushings, TRE's, and all joints in the steering for looseness (including the trackbar mount on the frame) are all valid things to check. Get rid of those GSA's and get some BFG AT's (if you're staying on road) and hopefully things will be better. -Paul
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| This is my 1st jeep..99 sahara. It came with mud tires that are pretty well spent & want to put something that is good for road mostly, not so noisy & rough, it has 16" rims & 3" lift on it. What do you suggest??? | |
My '00 TJ was ordered with optional 30x9.50 R-15 GY GSA's on 15x8 alloy wheels. The factory tires were making "growling" noise and thumping when at cruising speed. Problem was diagnosed by mechanic, and concurred by tire dealer, as broken belts in 3 of 4 tires on ground. The GSA's slipped in the rain and offered no traction in the snow. The GSA's were replaced at 32,000 mi. in 2-'03 with 31x10.50 R-15 BFG AT K/O's (including spare). The BFG's were chosen due to positive experience with them on my previous '92 YJ. The 31's fit the TJ well, only minor tire rub on lower control arm when at full turn lock. Four 31's were replaced in12-'07 at 90,000 mi(balance & rotate at each oil change). It is a reasonable compromise to a highway tire and a mud tire. It also meets the Rubber Manufacturer's Assoc. Severe Snow Condition criteria and wears the mountain/snowflake badge on the side wall. Other tires that have this rating are the Goodyear Fortera TripleTred, General Grabber AT2, and ProComp All Terrain. Steering stabilizer and shock absorbers begin to fade around 50,000 miles. If not doing anything "extreme", the premium Gabriel or Monroe units will be a marked improvement over stock. Hope my rant helps.
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Replying to: matt1320 (Jun 27, 2008 5:06 pm) An excellent tire on virtually all surfaces, on and off road, wet or dry, except for deep or squishy mud. |
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I just bought a used 2003 Wrangler X....I'm a newbie to these multi-faceted man mobiles....for now. In anycase, my current tire size is the stock 215 75R15, and I'm thinking of upgrading to 31x10.5x15 without lift. Does anyone know what else needs to be done to ensure a smooth ride? I've heard the gear ratio will change and there is something we can do about that (a sensor in the transmission needs to be changed), but no one seems to know exactly what - - not even the JEEP Dealer!! Please elaborate if you know.....Thanks.
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