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Jeep Wrangler Tires and Wheels

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Re: Bad wobble/vibration [dtkaczyk] by erickpl
May 05, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: dtkaczyk (May 03, 2008 4:35 pm)

The steering stabilizer/damper only masks problems.
 
Do you have a lift? What size tires?
 
I'd check all joints in your steering and ensure they are all solid. I'd also consider verifying balance and alignment as those CAN contribute to your problem.
 
-Paul
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Jeep Spare Tire Spacer/Carrier by karlw90
May 19, 2008 (10:13 am)
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I just bought the Rubicon Express 2" lift kit and I believe I will be going with 32x11.15 tires. Obviously if I go with a spare of the same size, it won't fit on my current spare tire carrier.
 
There's tons of options out there, but I don't want to have to install a separate swing gate, etc... just to store one tire. I noticed there are some Spare Tire "Spacers" that push your tire out 2" from the gate so it doesn't touch the rear bumper.
 
Two questions - has anyone one here gone with this and has it worked out?? And more importantly.. what happens with the rear brake light with these? It doesn't seem any of the spacers and/or carriers address the fact that the brake light will be in the way or blocked with the larger tire.
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Re: Jeep Spare Tire Spacer/Carrier [karlw90] by erickpl
May 19, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: karlw90 (May 19, 2008 10:13 am)

I tried one. It will raise and push out your tire. Result is that you have to bumpstop the tire against the gate with some kind of spacer as well. If not, vibrations will make your gate's life MUCH shorter. I did NOT like it.
 
As for the 3rd brake light, you could probably leave it as it sits, or you could remove it, add a few washers to move it up in height, and have it work fine.
 
I opted for a 3rd party tire carrier as I was going with aftermarket bumpers anyway for offroad use. Provided stronger tire support and body protection. The 3rd brake light is incorporated into the wheel holder (where the center cap usually is).
 
-Paul
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Re: Jeep Spare Tire Spacer/Carrier [erickpl] by karlw90
May 19, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (May 19, 2008 10:40 am)

If I can move up the brake light an inch, and buy a bumper that has a "dip" in it to allow for the extra tire length, can't I just us the OEM tire carrier?
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Re: Jeep Spare Tire Spacer/Carrier [karlw90] by erickpl
May 20, 2008 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: karlw90 (May 19, 2008 11:30 am)

Technically, yes.
 
But consider this - how much does that 32x11.5 weigh? Believe me, it is more than you think. That weight, over time WILL affect the hinges and sheet metal holding the tailgate on. Over time, it WILL sag. Maybe not as fast because it rests on the bumper, but opening it up removes that support.
 
The Bestop Tire Carrier actually attaches to the tub, reinforces it, and attaches to the door, so there is no separate carrier to open - it opens with the door. It was actually my first choice for tire carrier before I opted to go with an offroad bumper/carrier combination. Plus it will work up to a 35" tire AND it uses the OEM 3rd brake light setup. So it can grow with you and the Jeep's size, if you opt to do that.
 
-Paul
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death wobble by tracy3999
May 20, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Im starting to have the Bad Death wobble!!! I have 2004 jeep wrangler sport.. It does not have a lift kit on it.. the only thing the tires are a little bigger than the orginal once that came with the jeep!! My jeep only has 18,000 miles on it!! When i first bought it i had know problems with it, after a month or so.. it has started to bounce out of control just when i hit 50, 55 miles an hour!! Im sooo sad i love my jeep and not sure what the problem is.. i have heard many people talk about the death wobble but know one really knows why.. or gives a real solution why this is happening !! I have just dropped it off to a jeep dealer and they said that they have never heard of this problem!! Great .. i can only imagine what this is going to cost me!!! Is their any one out their that can give me a reason not a run around? Thank you soooo much.. Please help..
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Re: death wobble [tracy3999] by erickpl
May 21, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: tracy3999 (May 20, 2008 5:24 pm)

There are a lot of posts on this and the Jeep Wrangler thread about 'death wobble'.
 
If you are not lifted, I would suspect either the tires are seriously out of balance and/or alignment. Easy fix - get em balanced and aligned or replace with better tires. Other causes may be loose steering components (tie rod, drag link, etc). If the dealer hasn't heard of death wobble, chances are you should find another dealer to work with. It can happen. Another possibility could be the tie rod ends and the holes they mount into are not as tight as they should be.
 
You may also want to make sure your control arms and shocks are all in good order. A competent mechanic should be able to find loose or worn steering components.
 
-Paul
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Re: death wobble [tracy3999] by sgreer721
Jun 20, 2008 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: tracy3999 (May 20, 2008 5:24 pm)

I have the same issue with the shaking at 50-55 mph. '04 Wrangler w/Rocky Mountain package, no lift kit or modifications. I had the steering damper replaced at 39,000 miles and it was fine. Now at 51,000 miles, it is starting to do it again. The alignment is fine, tires are balanced. The mechanic at the Jeep dealer now says its my tires (Goodyear Wrangler GS-A) and not my steering damper. Same tires since day one. I have asked them to check bushings, tie rods, etc and they shake their head at me with that "you are a girl so you have no idea what you are talking about" look. Anyone else have problems with these tires or does Jeep just make shoddy steering dampers?
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Re: death wobble [sgreer721] by erickpl
Jun 23, 2008 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: sgreer721 (Jun 20, 2008 12:11 pm)

Steering dampeners/stabilizers only mask the issue and will not be the cause.
 
The GSA's COULD be a problem as some tires just come the factory out of round and no balancing or aligning will stop that.
 
Checking the bushings, TRE's, and all joints in the steering for looseness (including the trackbar mount on the frame) are all valid things to check.
 
Get rid of those GSA's and get some BFG AT's (if you're staying on road) and hopefully things will be better.
 
-Paul
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Need new tires..what's good? by sahara991
Jun 23, 2008 (8:56 am)
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This is my 1st jeep..99 sahara. It came with mud tires that are pretty well spent & want to put something that is good for road mostly, not so noisy & rough, it has 16" rims & 3" lift on it. What do you suggest???

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