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Jeep Wrangler Tires and Wheels

193 messages,  Last post on Sep 26, 2009 at 5:22 AM

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Re: death wobble [jim225] by cbrandtw
Nov 19, 2008 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: jim225 (Nov 18, 2008 9:29 pm)

Jim, Thanks for the input. I'm taking the Jeep in tomorrow to check out the track bar.
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Re: death wobble [cbrandtw] by erickpl
Nov 20, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: cbrandtw (Nov 19, 2008 9:19 pm)

It isn't just the track bar you should check out. Any joints or steering components should be considered.
 
Consider:
1. Control arm bushings - if they are worn, you may get play in the axle.
2. Tie rod ends - ensure greased, intact, and no lateral movement (may have some rotation due to the joint type).
3. Track bar - check BOTH ends (frame and axle)
4. CV joints - jack tire up and check for motion top to bottom /\ kinda thing.
5. Draglink/tie rod. make sure that connection is secure as well.
 
If the problem has cropped up, you should also ensure your tires are properly balanced and have even wear.
 
IF you replace the steering stabilizer/dampener, I'd suggest at least getting a good aftermarket one, like Old Man Emu or something. That stock unit is so so. That will be my next acquisition.
 
As an FYI, I'm on 33" tires with NO death wobble at all. Aftermarket track bar (JKS), and a Grand Cherokee tie rod (stronger). I did swap out my control arms back in August to newer, unbent ones. I did notice my trackbar loose at one point, but the only issue I had from it was loose/sloppy steering.
 
If you look at this pic, you can see the primary components for the front suspension. Any of those points being loose can create havoc.
 

-Paul
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Re: death wobble [erickpl] by tomnlaurel
Nov 20, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Nov 20, 2008 6:54 am)

What is this death wobble your are refering to?
 
I have a 98 Jeep and i think I might have it. It wobbles violently every once in a while when going 40-50 mph until I reduce speed to about 20mph. There is no indication when it is going to happen.
 
Also, I just bought rims off an '08 Jeep X Unlimited and I want to make sure that the bolt pattern on the new jeeps are 5 x 5. I want to get the right wheel adapters to make them fit on my '98.
 
thanks
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will my new rims fit? by tomnlaurel
Nov 20, 2008 (5:18 pm)
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I just bought 17" rims with Goodyear Wrangler 255/17R tires. will they fit under my 98 Jeep with out a lift? I know I will have to get wheel adapters for the 5X5 bolt pattern but I am afraid it will rub the flares.
 
Any help would be appreciated
 
-Tom
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Re: will my new rims fit? [tomnlaurel] by erickpl
Nov 21, 2008 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: tomnlaurel (Nov 20, 2008 5:18 pm)

Not certain, but the larger wheels should clear the brake calipers and such. I haven't tried it, so no clue as to whether it will clear. You may have issues with turning but I don't know the backspacing on the new wheels. With wheel spacers, you should be okay. Just do NOT use the shim kind of adapters. SpiderTrax is all I'd really recommend.
 
And it sounds like you have Death Wobble too. I'd fix THAT before changing your wheel configuration.
 
-Paul
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Re: death wobble [tomnlaurel] by mac24
Nov 21, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: tomnlaurel (Nov 20, 2008 11:26 am)

What is this death wobble your are refering to?
 
It's an uncontrollable shaking of the whole vehicle which originates from the front end.
You are unable to stop the vehicle from changing lanes and you'll invariably end up in the median or the ditch (or even the E.R. ).
 
It's scary, your life flashes before your eyes, and it carries a very real threat of an accident, hence the term 'death wobble'.
It's not just a bad vibration or shake, and accelerating, braking, or decelerating won't make it go away.
Thankfully it's also very rare, though it happens enough to be a recognized phenomenon, and most commonly occurs in Wranglers and Dodge Rams.
 
If you were to experience it or observe it happen to another vehicle I doubt you'd ever forget it!
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Re: death wobble [mac24] by rself
Nov 24, 2008 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Nov 21, 2008 6:28 am)

i have built a few jeeps for off road and from experence the death wobble is caused by bearing assembles going bad.or bad tires. and it happens at about the same speed each time and sometimes it could be from the frame being bent on the jeep
but i would spend the 300 dollars and replace the front bearings a front stabilizer shock wont help you it is for off road and to keep the stering from breaking your arm when you put the front tire in a bind or hit something.
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Re: death wobble [rself] by riclee
Nov 25, 2008 (1:12 am)
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Replying to: rself (Nov 24, 2008 9:13 pm)

I have an appointment with Domonick at Xtreme Jeeps in Tampa (FL) next Monday. I checked with the dealership and found out my Jeep was put in service on April 25, 06, so I'm hoping if anything the warranty covers, I can get it now without having to shell out big bucks now or later.
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Re: Lift, Tires, and Rims [soph321] by rself
Nov 26, 2008 (10:43 pm)
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Replying to: soph321 (Aug 09, 2007 3:42 pm)

you could run 31-12-50 if you dont have a lift. you will need a 3.3 inch lift to run 33s
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Re: Highway tires for a Wrangler [oldgoat2] by rself
Nov 26, 2008 (10:50 pm)
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Replying to: oldgoat2 (Nov 23, 2006 4:39 pm)

your best bet would be bfgoodrich all terrain ko. and the size would go with is a 31-10-50

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