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Replying to: detroit_rex (Jun 14, 2007 12:50 pm) Please take this as constructive criticism from a scientist who has written over 80 peer-reviewed publications. I am not trying to give you too hard of a time on this one. I did read your article. I re-read it to be certain of my initial interpretation. The article's title and the paragraph concerning "lame duck" are very misleading and somewhat nebulous in their interpretation. Try to choose your words more carefully, it avoids confusion. I won't respond to a reply on this topic. I've said my piece, you are welcome to disagree. Now that you have clarified, I think it is a mistake for Saturn to discontinue the BAS system. I like the lack of what I call the "hybrid surcharge" (what a nebulous term)with the 2007 model. I would tend to agree with your 2007 vs 2008 comments now that they are in context. So far the mileage is good and there have been no problems. I'll keep my fingers crossed on the electrical problems other owners seem to be having. Will keep all you other BAS Vue drivers updated on how the beast is working as time moves on. Will we need to specify BAS vs 2-step, or whatever tech term is used for the various hybrids. I'm sooooo confused. My mind is nebulous. Oh no. Brain freeze. |
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Can anyone provide info on the number of 2007 Green Lines sold? I was wondering about the percentage/fraction of Green Lines with electrical problems? Assuming, which can be bad, that only owners with problems would be most likely to make posts. Thanks
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Haven't checked here for a few months. 25-30 MPG for the VUE isn't that impressive to me. Considering other manufactors are starting to show better MPG on gas alone. These insane electrical issues that can't seem to be solved is another concern. Thank you for your reports, seems to me I need to look elsewhere. |
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I'm considering a VUE - I have the Hybrid at home this evening for an 'over-nighter'. I really like the auto-off and I tend to coast anyway, so after reading about that here, I might get pretty good mileage. I'm still not sold yet, though. I've read some other people's input who say it is quiet. Having just dropped off a Hyundai Santa Fe, the VUE seems pretty noisy (road and tire noise). But, I realize it doesn't have all the amenities of other SUV's, but with the price in the same range, I was expecting a little more for the money. The biggest question arose when I was asked if there have been any safety tests done with regard to the battery if you're in an accident? Could there be issues with batteries exploding, or battery acid being thrown about? Does anyone know about this? I've done a little research on hybrids in general, but haven't found anything yet on this. Thanks. |
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Replying to: cak0219 (Jun 20, 2007 7:08 pm) 1. I think the gas would explode long before the batteries went. These are NiMh; the "exploding" batteries one reads about are LiIon. 2. I believe you are thinking of lead-acid batteries when you speak of acid being thrown around. I have seen nothing to indicate there is any danger of such an event. The only published concerns are from emergency workers who are worried about the high voltage wires being cut during a "jaws of life" rescue. However the wires are brightly colored, and I haven't seen any reports on this issue lately.
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jun 21, 2007 8:01 am) After reading the discussions here, I'm seeing a lot of electrical issues. My dealer (of course) says there are no problems with electrcial system or getting parts to fix them. First year cars often have issues. I need to see when the '08 (Hybrid) might be coming out. I think I'd feel better after they've had more experience with them. Thanks for your input.
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Replying to: cak0219 (Jun 21, 2007 3:00 pm) Keep in mind that the Saturn belt hybrid system is simpler than the Toyota HSD, but it is also a new implementation, and it is not as efficient as a dual mode hybrid (HSD). If you are worried about electrical components, you might want to go for either the Ford Escape Hybrid or the Highlander Hybrid. Here is my short summary based on my reading and experience. FEH: Rides more like a truck (you may or may not like that in an SUV), but has a 4 cylinder engine (plus). Can achive mid 30's for in-town MPG. I personally found the truck to feel a bit "tippy" (but that was a 2006 model), and stability control is not offered on the hybrid model. HH: Rides very smooth (a Toyota design intention), but has a 6 cylinder engine. Can achieve upper 20's MPG in town. There have been considerable comments on the fact that the HH runs the ICE for a longer time than the Prius or Camry Hybrids. To get these kinds of MPG, you have to drive it like a hybrid - it is a learning process. If you drive either of these vehicles hard, you will get low 20's (HH) or upper 20's (FEH). |
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Oct 27, 2006 5:51 am) 
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Replying to: hybridvue (Dec 07, 2006 9:01 am)
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| i had the wiring harness replaced 3 weeks ago. the result is that the battery warning light and the check engine light have stayed off. i hope that this will be the final fix although i am sort of sorry that i didn't buy the ford escape hybrid. since i keep my cars 10-15 years, i hope the remorse doesn't stay | |
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