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Re: 2005 Honda Accord Harmonic Drone/Noise [dickcdavis]
by soocitysue
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Sep 23, 2009 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: dickcdavis (May 03, 2009 2:56 pm)
I just bought a 2005 HAH and it has some kind of wierd vibration/humming/shuddering between 38-53 mph especially if I'm not accelerating. Also does it sometimes as the car slows to a stop. I've taken the car to 7 places... Honda says to replace the electronic motor mounts ($1700), AAMCO says transmission problems ($2,000-$4,000), and the rest of them just don't know. I'm going nuts... it isn't something you could just live with, but having just bought the car, I don't know who to trust, I don't have $2,000 to put into this, and no one is guaranteeing that they are right. Help!!!
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- #85 of 96
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It's probably not tranny or motor mounts...
by jayngee
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Sep 23, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Please review the older posts (back to #60's) since quite a few people have had the same experience. Have your mechanic look up TSB-05-006- it is a service report on the problem. When my own Honda mechanic suggested we "try" changing the motor mounts, I did my own research, found the bulletin, and gave it to him. He ordered the part- #06390-sdr-307 "noise kit" and that finally solved the problem. Honda did not issue any service report for whatever their reasons, leaving the service depts. either unable or unwilling to address it. As with everything else in corporatized America, you have to be the smartest person between you and your money.
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- #86 of 96
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Re: It's probably not tranny or motor mounts... [jayngee]
by soocitysue
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Oct 25, 2009 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: jayngee (Sep 23, 2009 4:58 am)
Hi -- thanks for answering. I'm at my wit's end. I'm wondering if my problem is the same as all of these, though... my car is seriously shuddering if I'm backing off the gas between 38 and 55 mph, and also coming to a stop. It only does it when the car is warmed up, too -- which is why I didn't pick up on it when I test-drove the car. Do you think it's still this TSB-05-006 problem? I hope so, because I sure don't want to pay another $1,500 for motor mounts and find that's not the problem. The Honda dealer wouldn't guarantee it. I really appreciate your help!!!
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- #87 of 96
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Re: It's probably not tranny or motor mounts... [soocitysue]
by jayngee
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Oct 26, 2009 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: soocitysue (Oct 25, 2009 4:24 pm)
soocitysue-
though it is going to cost you no matter what, the hundreds for the noise kit is less than the thousands for the motor mounts. if you go back through these messages, no one has yet solved the problem with new motor mounts, or tires, or anything but the noise kit. I would suggest you try this first- but also suggest strongly you make some noise yourself with the regional service manager. this is a problem that should have been covered by some recall, and I guess it might have if they didn't discontinue the car. good luck!
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- #88 of 96
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Re: It's probably not tranny or motor mounts... [jayngee]
by soocitysue
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Oct 26, 2009 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: jayngee (Oct 26, 2009 10:08 am)
Yeah, I read a lot of them, and that's pretty much the conclusion I came to, too. I guess I need to go to Honda to have it done, too. The 2 times I've been there, the service manager basically blew me off -- that's who diagnosed the motor mounts even though I had printed out a few of the messages from this blog for him to at least consider. Southern men still treat women like idiots, unfortunately. I really appreciate this blog, and you for answering!! I'll let you know how the car feels after I have it done.
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- #89 of 96
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Re: It's probably not tranny or motor mounts... [soocitysue]
by jayngee
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Oct 27, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: soocitysue (Oct 26, 2009 6:49 pm)
good luck....and just to let you know, even in New York, I complained for over a year to service "men" who thought I was imagining it, or being female, just didn't understand my car. I was lucky a new person was hired who kept the car over night- drove it multiple times, really trying to find the phantom noise. even after he heard it himself he didn't know what it was, until I came in with the service bulletin. he looked it up, ordered the parts, and actually checked to see if it was a warranty issue- and got it paid for. it's not just southern men, but men in general who have to stop thinking only the male brain understands cars- especially since most of the cars in this country are chosen by women to begin with- maybe we should also factor in service! 
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- #90 of 96
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Re: It's probably not tranny or motor mounts... [jayngee]
by soocitysue
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Oct 29, 2009 (8:37 pm)
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Replying to: jayngee (Oct 27, 2009 8:35 am)
Went to Honda today, and took the service manager for a ride. He actually seemed interested in the problem. He agreed that it isn't the motor mounts, doesn't think it's the service bulletin problem (which they have seen before), but might be the torque converter. That sounds expensive.... anyone got input on this one?
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- #91 of 96
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Re: It's probably not tranny or motor mounts... [soocitysue]
by jayngee
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Oct 30, 2009 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: soocitysue (Oct 29, 2009 8:37 pm)
again, I find a lot of wisdom in the experience of people here, so I would defer to the long thread on this problem. I did not see anyone who solved the issue any other way than by the noise kit. the service people can only work with what they have dealt with or what honda reports to them, and for the most part, this car was put out of production rather quickly so there isn't much of either for them to fall back on. just being pragmatic, i would think about trying the cheapest remedy first, not most expensive or most disruptive to the engineering. replacing parts and system overhauls will only guarantee that honda, inc. and honda service will be better off - not you.
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- #92 of 96
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Accord's phantom noise
by viet
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Nov 06, 2009 (6:05 am)
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My Accord Hybrid 2005 that my college son drives it now, got same "phantom noise" for years after my complaints to different Honda dealers. Luckily, last time, 1+ years ago, one of Honda mechanics was able to hear it when he almost gave up (as other previous Honda mechanics) after a test drive. He replaced some parts. It costed some $650 and it was paid off by my extended warranty.
This '05 Accord hybrid used to achieve 29 MPG in city, and 33 - 35 MPG on highway when I drove it. But my son gets only some 25 MPG as a non-hybrid Accord V6. Probably, he drives it "rough" as an (A GPA) college student. This car runs strong and smooth. I still love it
I am driving a '09 Accord V6 EXL (non-hybrid) now. It runs excellent. FYI, I am owning 4 Accord V6. My other son drives a '03 Accord V6. My wife drives a '02 Accord V6. Still love the smoothness and power of the V6 Accord. After one drives a V6 Accord he probably does not want to switch back to Accord I4. To the latest Accord MPGs are almost same either I4 or V6 (with VCM).
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