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Luxury Full-Sized SUV comparison by ckelly14
Oct 26, 2006 (11:10 pm)
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I'm currently in the market for a luxury SUV that can also tow greater than 5000 lbs. I have read the October Motor trend that slammed the Navigator and praised the Mercedes. However, the Mercedes and Audi are out for me due to their relatively low towing capacity.
 
Looking at the Navigator, Escalade, QX56 and the LX470.
 
From what I've seen, here are the issues:
 
Navigator- poor interior components/styling, power fold-flat 3rd row, low HP
 
QX56- love it or leave it styling, poor reliability
 
Escalade: great interior, plenty of power, crappy removable seats
 
LX470- poor towing, outdated design, poor towing, great reliability
 
I don't think there's a perfect choice here. I would choose the Infinity if the reliability was better. I've seen pretty favorable reviews for the redesigned Expedition- I wonder why the Navigator was rated so low?
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Re: Luxury Full-Sized SUV comparison [ckelly14] by akirby
Oct 27, 2006 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: ckelly14 (Oct 26, 2006 11:10 pm)

I've seen pretty favorable reviews for the redesigned Expedition- I wonder why the Navigator was rated so low?
 
The biggest complaint seems to be that it doesn't have enough HP. Remember the competition bar is a lot higher for the Navigator than it is for the Expedition. Enough power for the Expedition seems to equal not enough for the Navigator - according to some people. But that's something you should judge for yourself with a test drive. It's not like it's underpowered.
 
They also don't like the really retro gauges. Have to agree with them on that one.
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Is it out? by ckelly14
Oct 27, 2006 (5:37 am)
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Is the 2007 Navigator out? The Lincoln website seems to imply it's still on its way.
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Re: Is it out? [ckelly14] by akirby
Oct 27, 2006 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: ckelly14 (Oct 27, 2006 5:37 am)

Saw one yesterday on the road. So the answer is yes, they're out.
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Yep, they are out! by gteach26
Oct 27, 2006 (8:38 am)
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My local dealer has it's inventory posted online and they have TONS of them available already.
 
The pricing for this suv will be VERY competitive. I'm sure rebates and incentives are forthcoming. Considering all of it's features, the Navi has always been and will continue to be a decent "value" for a lux barge.
 
Not sure where I should post this, but, does anyone know if this SUV has a back-up camera along with the sensors? How about front sensors?
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Re: Luxury Full-Sized SUV comparison [ckelly14] by pmichaelmd
Nov 09, 2006 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: ckelly14 (Oct 26, 2006 11:10 pm)

I am an avid C&D reader and thought that article was quite good, but not the be all, end all. I have driven several of the above choices and ended up buying a new GMC Yukon Denali. Very similar to the Escalade without as much "bling." Sure, the third-row seats are a pain in the ss as they don't fold flat, but I'm otherwise very happy with the Denali. Fuel economy...well, none of them do well and people buying these sorts of vehicles probably don't much care.
 
I'd take a look at the Denali...I ended up getting it for several thousand below invoice and think I got a good deal.
 
Regards,
PMMD
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Re: Luxury Full-Sized SUV comparison [pmichaelmd] by ckelly14
Nov 14, 2006 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: pmichaelmd (Nov 09, 2006 2:41 pm)

I went out for a test in a 2007 Navigator drive during lunch today. A few thoughts:
 
1. I like the exterior design. The power running boards and the chrome strip down the side is a bit high on the cheese factor but the exterior is not a show-stopper for me.
2. Interior: The blond wood is excellent. However, the interior plastic is of such poor quality that it defies explanation. It looks painted. The right side of the dash has a huge swath of it over the airbag and it's just hideous. I don't mind the throw-back gauges but they are hard to read.
3. Ride. Acceleration is adequate. Felt less stable at all speeds, with more vibration and wind noise, then the Yukon Denali I rode in. Wallows around like a pregnant dog.
4. Interior room. Second row was much better than the Denali. Third row was cramped but easy enter/exit. Fold-Away seat required a very high load level which seemed to diminish the interior space.
 
In general, fit and finished were far below what I would expect in a 59K SUV. I would buy a fully loaded Yukon Denali for 53K anytime over the Lincoln..
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Re: Luxury Full-Sized SUV comparison [ckelly14] by johnhw
Jul 07, 2007 (1:47 am)
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Replying to: ckelly14 (Oct 26, 2006 11:10 pm)

The 2007/2008 QX56 is reported to have the reliability issues of the past corrected. Take a look at it if you arent already in something else. Very nice, good size and comfortable with a great ride.
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Re: Luxury Full-Sized SUV comparison [ckelly14] by nvbanker
Jul 09, 2007 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: ckelly14 (Nov 14, 2006 10:03 am)

Wallows around like a pregnant dog.
 
Interesting; I owned two Navigators, now I have an Escalade - and I feel just the opposite. Isn't that odd? Every time I drive the Escalade (which isn't that often), I wish I had my Navigators back because they handled and rode so much better.....
 
Makes me wonder if it's just the nature of the beast's size.
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Re: Luxury Full-Sized SUV comparison [ckelly14] by lykourinou
Feb 21, 2008 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: ckelly14 (Oct 26, 2006 11:10 pm)

I have seen the infiniti reliability low, but now for the 07 and 08 models it has been high.

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