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Re: Update on my 06 GV Luxury 4x4 Auto..... [vitara4me]
by broncododge
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Mar 02, 2007 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: vitara4me (Mar 01, 2007 9:37 pm)
Sorry, have been in the hospital so was unable to reply. The dealer can override the computer and flash any ECM regardless of the date. Your issue is the dealer can not believe it is the ECM. Suzuki has an independent group now buying back the cars and trucks that have issues, so you won't have any problems. We too have seen a mass exodus of people leaving the Suzuki line. It's a shame really, but Suzuki has created this. Forget the Saturn go try the Mitsubishi. It really is a shame. My Suzuki is running wonderfully-I have had no problems but then the crew flashed my ECM with the same date same serial number by overriding the error message. Good luck to you. Suzuki woman strikes again.
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What is going on??
by vitara4me
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Mar 02, 2007 (2:01 pm)
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This is very strange. Just yesterday, I get a call from the dealer and I am told that the transfer case replacement DID NOT fix the vibration issue. The technician that performed the repairs drove the vehicle and gave it thumbs "down". The area rep from Suzuki of America drives it and gives it a thumbs "up". I am willing to give everyone involved the benefit of the doubt, but I also will not tolerate being played the fool.
Now, five minutes ago, I get another call from the same dealership telling me that the transfer case replacement DID fix the vibration. Ok, which is it? Fixed or not?
They are saying now that the vibration is "much less" than before, and it is now within acceptable limits. I was told that they test-drove another 4x4 GV Luxury Edition and the vibration is "consistent" with the other vehicle. Ok, how can any vibration be acceptable and consistent? Just because other vehicles of a particular model vibrate does not make it right, or acceptable. If it is a design flaw, then Suzuki must either make it right, as in COMPLETELY right, or take back the defective vehicle. There is no “middle” ground.
They told me to drop off the rental car and take the GV home. I say, "hold on there, I want to DRIVE the vehicle before I give up my rental". So tomorrow, I go drive my lemon, err, I mean Grand Vitara.....
I even mentioned the re-flash to the guy on the phone and he just ignored me and kept saying, "your car is fixed, your car is fixed, you car is fixed".
So then I mention the letter that I wrote to Suzuki of America, and he says, "your car is fixed".
I'll keep you posted as the saga continues.
Regards, NoVitara4me
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Re: What is going on?? [vitara4me]
by loukywells
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Mar 03, 2007 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: vitara4me (Mar 02, 2007 2:01 pm)
Vitara4me...we are in the exact same boat and I feel your pain. Tech says one thing and the D.M. says another. Let me know your outcome as mine is for sale.
Suzuki women: Who is this independent company buying the defective cars back?
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Re: What is going on?? [loukywells]
by broncododge
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Mar 03, 2007 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: loukywells (Mar 03, 2007 9:50 am)
I have to look through records to find the name of the company. Will repost when I find it. I am not too sure you can call them directly. Suzuki woman strikes again...
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What is going on?? [vitara4me
by i3oyet
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Mar 03, 2007 (11:40 pm)
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You are not the only one with this problem. I have been told over and over and over by my dealer that the car is fixed and the problem was actually never fixed and now more problem.(even Suzuki canada is makeing it really hard for me)(I emailed them last december and never got a respond 'till i filed a complaint with CANVAP almost two mnths later) They now told me that they will replace my transmission "again" with a new 2007 version. I'm giving them one last chance after that I'm going all the way to the court and also get my car tested and post a warning on evey chat room I can find on the internet to teach this people a lesson for making their customer like a fool. Am still waiting for suzuki woman to give a respond to my question a while ago. Is she for real or one of them? good question..
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Re: What is going on?? [vitara4me [i3oyet]
by loukywells
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Mar 04, 2007 (4:49 am)
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Replying to: i3oyet (Mar 03, 2007 11:40 pm)
Suzuki woman has been very helpful for me in the past. I believe she is for real and would be willing to assist in whatever manner. I thought about the court system but it is such a hassle and I really don't have the time. Kentucky does have Arbitration, so I could just file a complaint with them. Check your state law or Suzuki would be able to let you know. Le me know what happens.
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Re: What is going on?? [loukywells]
by broncododge
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Mar 04, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: loukywells (Mar 04, 2007 4:49 am)
Well, first off, I would drive the truck to see if it's really fixed. Then I would make a determination on whether or not to contact an attorney. As for the guy in Canada-there is a bit of a difficulty here that all of us are shaking our head over. Firstly, your laws are different as you are a different country. Secondly, your TRUCKS AND CARS are different because your emission laws are much different. My take on the GV problem is that Suzuki lost a lot of money on this problem and they may be getting a bit strained at the bit to fix more trucks. We got a delivery of trucks that had come from Canada and they were totally different from what we are able to fix. Calls to American Suzuki were frustration VERY unhappy mechanics. Tons of electrical problems. Finally shipped them back to Suzuki at a loss. Arbitration is a very good way to get the powers that be to the table. Make sure you have all paperwork and records and state exactly what you want. I think with an arbitrator you will get satisfaction. It's just such a shame that Suzuki lets this kind of thing go on! Best of luck to you Kentucky and to you Vancouver. Suzuki woman strikes again.
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Re: What is going on?? [broncododge]
by xostnot
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Mar 04, 2007 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: broncododge (Mar 04, 2007 7:33 am)
You know, one thing many of us worried about when deciding to buy the new GV, was that entirely new car designs commonly show up with, or develop difficult problems. It looks like this has happened with the new GV, and the only lucky thing for most of us is that it seems most of the GV's don't have this problem. Vitaras have had a pretty good record on the first model year for new versions, but I guess this will be the end of that positive reputation. Good luck to those struggling with this problem.
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Re: What is going on?? [xostnot]
by broncododge
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Mar 04, 2007 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: xostnot (Mar 04, 2007 7:11 pm)
I read the consumer reports on all the cars manufactured.. I received the latest report and the consumer satisfaction ratings for the Grand Vitara are dropping. All the while the consumer satisfaction for the Izuzu and the toyota and the honda are skyrocketing. The ratings for the Hyundai sonata are soaring. The Pontiac vibe is extremely highly rated. All the while, Suzuki seems to want to hide in obsurity- suddenly. They don't want dealers to advertise in Newspapers all of a sudden. Advertising reimbursement and allotments are suddenly cut. One cannot dabble in the car manufacturing business and then when you find out that you have a defect, back up and hide. You are correct, not all the Grand Vitaras have a problem and many of the cars and trucks produced by Suzuki are excellent. It's stepping up to the plate and aiding the people who are affected that makes the difference. Suzuki woman strikes again!
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Re: What is going on?? [broncododge]
by xostnot
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Mar 05, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: broncododge (Mar 04, 2007 7:33 pm)
Yes, it's one thing to be aware of a defect like this when deciding which vehicle to get. That will turn off a number of sales. But if the prospective buyers also know that they will get the run-around IF they end up with a bad one, then there aren't many people who will be willing to take both risks.
I wonder what the proportion of vehicles with this problem is, and I wonder if it's confined to the US/Canadian market. I don't see much "chatter" about this on the Suzuki fan websites.
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