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2007 Acura TL vs. 2007 Infiniti G35 Sedan

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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [kdshapiro] by billyperks1
Jul 25, 2007 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 25, 2007 4:03 am)

Apples to orange- wait for the new generation TL and then your statements will be valid.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [billyperks1] by kdshapiro
Jul 25, 2007 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: billyperks1 (Jul 25, 2007 6:35 am)

I'm already waiting for the next generation 3 series.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [darrenw] by graphicguy
Jul 25, 2007 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: darrenw (Jul 24, 2007 10:07 pm)

darren...you're absolutely right. There's always going to be newer/better right around the corner.
 
The cars in this category are so good (including the G, TL, 3 Series) it comes down to styling, both in and out, in many cases....sometimes price. The BMW, compared like for like with options, is going to be at the top end price point, followed closely by the IS 350, then the G, with the Acura pulling up the rear, price-wise. Throw the CTS in there somewhere, with all of GM's proverbial rebates and financing specials. I just hope Cadillac got the buggabbos sorted out with their quality and reliability.
 
You're going to have those who prefer one over the other for reasons outside of performance. They are all just too close in the performance race.
 
If, indeed, Acura does come out with a TL with 300 HP and SH-AWD, and they keep it in the $37K-$38K MSRP range next year, I might be tempted to dump my BMW....just because out of all those mentioned above, I like the styling of the TL the best. Plus, given recent history, after all the hoopla dies down for a redesigned TL, you should be able to buy one for a decent discount (say purchase price somewhere in the $36K range, all loaded up).
 
There's a lot of "what ifs" and speculation in the above, though.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [graphicguy] by bodble2
Jul 25, 2007 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 25, 2007 7:25 am)

Not to mention if we're talking about leasing, the BMW price disadvantage may be reduced or eliminated.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [kdshapiro] by graphicguy
Jul 27, 2007 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 25, 2007 6:58 am)

kd....as far as I've heard, next up for the 3 Series will be a massage from their "M" dept. Could be wrong, but given the accolades of the current 3, I don't see them changing much in standard issue guise.
 
I think Infiniti is focusing on the new "G coupe". Don't see much in the way of changes on the sedan.
 
TL/TL-S is pretty much the same from '07 to '08...big change will be for the '09 MY.
 
I've got the 330i that's in its 2nd year of sitting in my garage. While it's tempting to go for a 335i, I've never been disappointed in the performance of the 330i. I've absolutely loved my 3 series. I've even learned to like my I-Drive (not nearly as good as the Nav in the TL, though). It took some time to master it and understand the design intent. Build quality and materials in the 3 are superb....compared to the IS (which is very good in its own right), G or the TL.
 
Looking down the road a bit, I'll probably be in the market again in a couple of years (when the warranty of the 3 is gone). We'll see what all these fine cars have on tap in the '09 time frame.
 
If I could wish for the perfect car, it would be a 335i with the room of the TL (I guess they'd call that the 5 series, which is more than I want to spend).
 
That's why the redesign of the TL has peaked my interest. IF Acura can keep it's current style, refinement, feature content and price....while upping the performance quotient (300 HP + SH-AWD), I could very well be a buyer.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [graphicguy] by billyperks1
Jul 27, 2007 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 27, 2007 5:27 am)

Would you buy the TL in its frst year of the redesign?
I am actually waiting to just to get peak, I almost signed off on a GS350 but Lexus needs to get the tire size and wheel design right on that car.The G35 was next but after Nissan's press release about an upgraded interior and Sport Package for 2008, I have decided to wait it out.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [billyperks1] by bodble2
Jul 27, 2007 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: billyperks1 (Jul 27, 2007 6:20 am)

I think you need to pull the trigger....or else you would be forever looking and waiting. Afterall, they always promise something better the next year. It's like waiting to buy a computer at the best price.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S by slzweibel
Jul 27, 2007 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Jul 27, 2007 8:18 am)

I have a 2004 TL - 1st year for the redesign - has many little squeaks and noises that drive me crazy that Acura has not been able to (or willing to) find or fix. For this reason I would be hesitant to get a first year redesign car again. Will be out of my lease in October and am looking at either the TL-S, the G35x sedan, or possibly a 3 (xi) series. I think the 3-series is too small and everyone has one (some say because it is the best car out there). The 5 series is gorgeous but a little above my price range. I am worried about G35 reliability but most of what I read states that the 2007 car is more reliable than in past years. The TL-S seems like a great car for the $$$ but I might be looking for more of a change from my 04 TL. In the end it will probably come down to test driving each car along with $$$. In 04 when I test drove the G35 back to back with the TL it was an easy decision for me to choose the TL. Any comments???
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [billyperks1] by graphicguy
Jul 28, 2007 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: billyperks1 (Jul 27, 2007 6:20 am)

billy....I don't subscribe to the theory that first year cars somehow are worse than subsequent years production. This is particularly true with Honda products. GM? Ford? I may be a little more suspect.
 
Even at that, I bought one of the first redesigned Mustang GTs to hit my 'burg in '05. It was perfect. Sold it 9 months late for more than I paid for it, too (bought it under Ford's employee plan).
 
Quality control, for all manufacturers, has become so good in recent years, I don't worry too much about first year buggaboos. I do feel that there is still a gap in engineering prowess between GM, Ford and the likes of BMW and Acura/Honda. American makes still are suffering from the hangover of being designed with the least cost in mind. They're getting better. They just haven't caught up, from an engineering standpoint, to Honda/Toyota/BMW.
 
I see some of that same cost cutting in Nissan/Infinit products. They're getting better. But, IMHO, Honda/BMW are still the benchmarks. Even mighty Toyota has slipped a bit in this regard.
 
I tried to buy an IS 350 when I was shopping for the BMW 3. While, I do think Lexus is getting closer to my definition of a sport sedan, they aren't there, yet. GSs are nice cars. But, given the price point, I'd pick a 5 series over the GS. Like you've found out, Lexus just sort of slightly misses the mark with their products, every time I consider purchasing one.
 
I've tried to buy Infinitis several times. For one reason or another, there was always something out there at their price point I liked better.
 
I thought my previous TL was top notch when it came to build, features and materials. I tried to convince myself that I wouldn't notice the handling differences with FWD. Maybe that bothers me more than most. Maybe I drive my cars harder than most. But, it bothered me so much, I sold it and got the BMW. If the TL-S was available when I was in the market, I may have had a different experience. I think Acura has done a wonderful job massaging the suspension.
 
If the '09 TL ends up being what's been rumored, it will be the perfect time for me to give it another look. My BMW will be out of warranty, and I'll be in the market, again.
 
I like the G. I just don't love it. That doesn't make it a bad car. They keep improving it. That's a good thing. I liked my TL. I love my BMW. If my TL had the SH-AWD when it first came out, I would have kept it.
 
The 335i is a great car (as is my 330i). Problem there is, to get a 335i all loaded up, like I like them, the car creeps towards mid $40s and beyond. I'm assuming Acura has learned their lesson with the RL....that is, it's one thing to stuff a lot of tech into a car. It's quite another making all that tech to be greater than the sum of its parts (like the TL does).
 
As has been Honda's recent moves, every new redesign of their products offers better and more, for about the same price. If the '09 TL does come in at the '08 TL-Ss price, with 300 HP and SH-AWD, I'll give it a very serious look.
 
We'll see. This is an exciting time for fans of sports sedans. It looks to continue.
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Re: The G Sport over the TL-S [graphicguy] by bodble2
Jul 29, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 28, 2007 7:47 am)

I don't think Acura will be able to offer SH-AWD without a significant bump in price ($2k?). The 300hp, yes, but not the AWD.

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