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#29 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [larsb]
by elias
Nov 06, 2006 (7:49 am)
along similar lines as post #2, i get as much magnitude kick out of driving TDI with 45 mpg & 100 hp as i do out of driving GTO with its 22 mpg & 400 hp. it's a kick in a slightly different direction, of course
#30 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice]
by tpe
Nov 06, 2006 (8:00 am)
Toyota says the average Prius buyer makes $85k per year. Why is it so hard to admit that the hybrids are not for the average buyer?
That number may well be accurate but I suspect that there are a lot of other demographic factors going on here. I'm fairly confident that there are vehicles being sold in the US that are at least as expensive as the Prius yet the earnings of the average buyer are considerably less than $85k.
#31 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [terry92270]
by gagrice
Nov 06, 2006 (8:06 am)
Edmunds says others are paying $26,266.00
Don't you find that a quite a bit more than the $22,175 you quoted from the Toyota site? You also left off the set administrations fee of $610. I don't think you can buy a Prius without one of the packages from the factory. It looks like Edmund's is showing the same price across the country. According to our hosts that is the average price paid. I am sure that will be lowered in the next 6 months.
#32 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [tpe]
by larsb
Nov 06, 2006 (8:23 am)
Actually, the "family income" is $85K. That in a lot of cases means two adult incomes. Given societal norms, that usually means a man making $50K and a wife making $35K.
That's not unusually high incomes at all. It's far above the poverty line, but not anywhere near WEALTHY.
#33 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice]
by terry92270
Nov 06, 2006 (11:58 am)
"Don't you find that a quite a bit more than the $22,175 you quoted from the Toyota site? You also left off the set administrations fee of $610...."
Yes, I do, and so commented on that fact, suggesting perhaps Edmunds hadn't run comparisons for some time, as the figures we see posted in the forums, from people who just bought, are much lower than Edmunds says people are paying. The Admin fee, is included in all prices I posted.
Here is a list I just received from Carson City Toyota (Nevada), They have 11 new Prisus' in stock, just click THIS LINK and take a look. According to them they have always sold for MSRP, never over.
Those eleven Prisus start at $24,234, three are at $25,129, one at $26,239, and the maximum price is $29,409 for a loaded Touring Edition.
#34 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice]
by kdhspyder
Nov 11, 2006 (7:34 pm)
Sorry Gary, the base model of most Prius' is in the US $23-24k range, at full MSRP. With typical discounts available it's under $23K.
We've never had a true BASE model but Package 3 or 4 is the typical 'Base' model through 2006 anyway.
#35 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [bamacar]
by kdhspyder
Nov 11, 2006 (7:37 pm)
One of the reasons for an addenmdum on the vehicle is so that it does NOT sell.... for a while anyway. When the vehicle is ready to be sold then the addendum comes off.
#36 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice]
by kdhspyder
Nov 11, 2006 (7:40 pm)
Different markets. Here's the E. Coast market situation...
Fitzmall Prius
The prices range from $800 - $1200 off sticker.. No addendums.
#37 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [kdhspyder]
by terry92270
Nov 11, 2006 (8:24 pm)
Anywhere but Reno, like other "distant" places they sell them full sticker. Even at that, its less than the outlandish prices some Hybrid haters are posting in these forums.
If someone drives the 100 miles from Reno to the Sacramento/San Francisco area, the addendums are off as well. Ditto Los Angeles and San Diego markets.
#38 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice]
by cpeek
Dec 10, 2007 (7:14 pm)
Prius is a nice car for the price, I just wish they would get the looks down. Overall outside of the car just isn't my type of vehicle. I can see them justifying the price with the good mileage it gets(45 miles to the gallon.) A lot better than my 04 cobra muscle car, car is a total gas guzler.