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#21 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice] by terry92270 Nov 05, 2006 (7:01 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 6:22 pm) Dude! Wake up and smell the coffee! Read my posts. I said the prices there were with Option "B" package. I am not defensive, just tired of people in these forums misstating, over and over, like some Nazi propaganda minister, what people post. If Toyota says the MSRP price is $7,000 under what you claim is the going price, it stands to reason that even if people pay sticker, that is still $7,000 less than you say. And, as I also said, people posting in the prices paid forum also contradict what you claim the going prices are. Is that specific enough for you? You also, I see, ignored their posts about prices paid, because it differed from your opinion. Replies to this message: bamacar (Nov 05, 2006 7:16 pm) terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 7:36 pm) gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 8:01 pm) and 4 more... bamacar (Nov 05, 2006 8:20 pm) and 3 more... kdhspyder (Nov 11, 2006 6:37 pm)
#22 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [terry92270] by bamacar Nov 05, 2006 (7:16 pm)
Replying to: terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 7:01 pm) For 2006 as of June, the average selling price for the Prius was $25,508. See Article with real data With price increases and Touring model for 2007, I think about 27-28k would be about average now. My dealer also has one of the joke $34k models. On one that stickers for about 25k, they still have an additional dealer markup of $3500. I wonder when the $34k model actually arrives on the lot if they put $37.5k on the sticker. Replies to this message: terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 7:36 pm) gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 8:01 pm) terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 8:30 pm) and 1 more... kdhspyder (Nov 11, 2006 6:40 pm) and 1 more... bamacar (Nov 05, 2006 8:20 pm) terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 8:49 pm) and 2 more... kdhspyder (Nov 11, 2006 6:37 pm)
#23 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [bamacar] by terry92270 Nov 05, 2006 (7:36 pm)
Replying to: bamacar (Nov 05, 2006 7:16 pm) That article was published back in June, on the 8th, with prep and all, it was most likely researched and the interviews done in early May. That was how many months ago? Hmmmmmm.....5-6 months. Lots has changed since then...more supply. Funny no one comments on the MSRP prices on Toyota's website, of the posts from buyers here, isn't it Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 8:01 pm) terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 8:30 pm) gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 8:37 pm) kdhspyder (Nov 11, 2006 6:40 pm) terry92270 (Nov 11, 2006 7:24 pm) bamacar (Nov 05, 2006 8:20 pm) terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 8:49 pm) gagrice (Nov 06, 2006 7:06 am) and 1 more...
#24 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [terry92270] by gagrice Nov 05, 2006 (8:01 pm)
Replying to: terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 7:36 pm) All I got to say is good luck finding a Prius at the price Toyota has on their website. It kept going to an error message when I put in my zipcode. I guess all bets are off when you sell a Prius in CA. I went back in the buying a Prius thread to the middle of Sept. Only found one solid price for a Prius. Most of the posts were pertaining to the shabby treatment received from Toyota dealers. Here is a price posted from the SE USA. OTD $34,599. Not my idea of mainstream value. YOu should just feel lucky you got such a good deal on your Prius. Many paid their whole $3150 Tax Credit over MSRP. Buying frenzy does that to people. riposte, "Toyota Prius: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #246, 21 Sep 2006 4:37 am Replies to this message: terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 8:30 pm) gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 8:37 pm) kdhspyder (Nov 11, 2006 6:40 pm) terry92270 (Nov 11, 2006 7:24 pm)
#25 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [terry92270] by bamacar Nov 05, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Replying to: terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 7:36 pm) More supply and higher prices. The average MSRP on my dealer's lot is $28k -that is before the 3500 dealer markup. Can better prices be had? Yes. If you think the average Prius selling price has fallen below $26k, you are living in a fantasy world. Just about 6 months ago, it was hard to find a Prius above $30k. Now at least 1/3 are stickering over $30k. Toyota has turned up the option machine. Even with greater discounting, selling prices are up. With the loss of 1/2 of the tax credit, prices are "way up" to the consumer. Replies to this message: terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 8:49 pm) gagrice (Nov 06, 2006 7:06 am) terry92270 (Nov 06, 2006 10:58 am)
#26 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice] by terry92270 Nov 05, 2006 (8:30 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 8:01 pm) I live in Reno, Nevada. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 8:37 pm)
#27 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [terry92270] by gagrice Nov 05, 2006 (8:37 pm)
Replying to: terry92270 (Nov 05, 2006 8:30 pm) Nice area. I would like to live around Gardnerville.
#28 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [bamacar] by terry92270 Nov 05, 2006 (8:49 pm)
Replying to: bamacar (Nov 05, 2006 8:20 pm) I just went to Edmunds, put in Zip 20210 (Washington, D.C.) and it returned a base Prius with Package 2 for MSRP of $1,175,(Includes backup camera, Smart Key system, AM/FM stereo, CD player, MP3 capability, MP3 input jack, six speakers and Vehicle Skid Control. ) and destination charge of $650. Edmunds says others are paying $26,266.00 It is quoting same price for Chicago, Zip 60606. Same price for Dallas, Texas, Zip 75201. Gentlemen, that is according to Edmunds, what others are paying. Note this is not a stripper, but with the backup camera, and skid control, and the upgraded sound system, as shown above. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 06, 2006 7:06 am) terry92270 (Nov 06, 2006 10:58 am)
#29 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [larsb] by elias Nov 06, 2006 (6:49 am)
Replying to: larsb (Oct 25, 2006 7:44 am) along similar lines as post #2, i get as much magnitude kick out of driving TDI with 45 mpg & 100 hp as i do out of driving GTO with its 22 mpg & 400 hp. it's a kick in a slightly different direction, of course
#30 of 38 Re: Very cute little opinion/review piece [gagrice] by tpe Nov 06, 2006 (7:00 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2006 4:15 pm) Toyota says the average Prius buyer makes $85k per year. Why is it so hard to admit that the hybrids are not for the average buyer? That number may well be accurate but I suspect that there are a lot of other demographic factors going on here. I'm fairly confident that there are vehicles being sold in the US that are at least as expensive as the Prius yet the earnings of the average buyer are considerably less than $85k. Replies to this message: larsb (Nov 06, 2006 7:23 am)