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Chevrolet Uplander: Electrical Issues

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Re: recall/Lemond law [shambbw] by sssenese
May 04, 2008 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: shambbw (Oct 29, 2007 10:44 am)

My '05 Uplander had a fire int he electrical harness for the sliding door on the passenger side. You replied to an old post regarding this. Here is the update...
 
I sued GM through Krohn & Moss in Chicago. It took months, but I have finally settled with GM for $11,000. Unfortunately, the lawyers got $4,000, but I didn't have to do anything regardign the lawsuit, so I guess that's fair. I;m just happy to make them pay. Had I taken the time to go to court, the settlement would have been higher, but so would the legal fees. I recommend contacting a lawyer to see if they will take your case on contingency, so you don't pay anything win or lose.
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Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop by cindyharder
Jul 05, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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I am sooooooo frustrated right now. I have an '05 Chevy Uplander. On the first day I drove it off the lot, the bells started ringing while I was driving. I had no clue what was going on, so I took it back to the dealer and the guy I bought it from gave me some lame excuse that all the doors weren't closed tightly. (I had already checked all the doors) But we somehow got the bells to stop ringing. We don't know how.
 
Over the course of the last 3 years, I have experienced off and on problems with the side doors flying open while driving, and the side doors not latching shut completely. I have taken it into the dealer three times, and the problem has always recurred. THe last time the chiming mysteriously stopped the morning I was driivng it in there to get fixed! It worked just fine for them, so all they did was clean the tracks and the sensors and it was "fixed". (Yeah right). That was Thursday. Suddenly Friday night the doors wouldn't close again and the chimes started dinging. Sometimes it's just one door and sometimes it's both. Sometimes the bells go constantly while driving. I took a 6 hour road trip with my 5 children with the bells ringing nonstop!!!! We eventually decided that we couldn't take it anymore and I made the kids climb in and out the front doors. Imagine-- 5 kids climbing in and out of the front doors for every potty break, every food break, etc. for 6 hours!
 
So I'll be taking it back into the dealership on Monday.......I am very frustrated. I had NO idea this was a common problem among Uplander owners. I'm going to videotape the doors not shutting all the way and take it to the service department at the dealership so that there is proof. At this point, they think I'm just imagining it or something.
 
How do we get them (GM) to deal with this problem seriously? I have 55,000 miles on this thing and my warranty is expired. The fact that this problem occurred on day one of purchase proves that this isn't a wear and tear issue. I want it FIXED now, or I want a new vehicle. NOT a GM. Any ideas? Suggestions?
 
Thanks.
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [cindyharder] by swathdiver
Jul 05, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: cindyharder (Jul 05, 2008 4:08 pm)

Cindy the problem is the electronic latch in the back of the door and how the mechanic adjusts the door. I was having the problem with my 2006 SV6 Montana on the driver's side sliding door. Once that was replaced the problems with the door not wanting to open or close went away and then needed the mechanic to adjust the door properly to open and close right. My AllData subscription has expired and I don't remember if there were any TSBs for that particular problem. The part number for the driver's side latch is 10347138.
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [cindyharder] by uplanderguy
Jul 06, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: cindyharder (Jul 05, 2008 4:08 pm)

Cindy, please let us know what your dealership tells you.
 
 Our '05 Uplander has 49K miles and in the past month or so has occasionally had the situation where the door is almost closed, then bounces back. Usually the next attempt, it will close. I am sort-of interested in cars, and this a.m. I did a couple 'tricks' to ours...one, I took an eraser and 'erased' the gunk off the brass-colored contact points on the body near the front of the power door (I think there's eight little brass-colored squares that I did this too....someone told me years ago to do this every so often), and I also cut a tiny little piece of the fat rubber molding off along the bottom of the door opening, near the plastic trim on the body where the door would meet the body. I cut a tiny little piece off of the molding with a scissors, that was jutting out a bit and overlapping the rest of the molding, which made me wonder if the sensor was seeing this as an obstruction. I also cleaned with a wet paper towel, the door track and all kinds of dirt and gunk were down there, as well as a couple of coins. We'll see if this does anything!
 
Bill
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [uplanderguy] by swathdiver
Jul 06, 2008 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Jul 06, 2008 8:06 am)

The solution to your problem is the same. The latch in the rear of the door is faulty and needs replacing. While you need to keep the area cleaned along with those contacts it likely doesn't have anything to do with the door popping back open.
 
If the door itself is improperly adjusted it may hit the body, usually at the very top at the back and until enough paint is chipped away it will sometimes cause the door to stop opening the first time you hit the swtich.
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [swathdiver] by uplanderguy
Jul 06, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: swathdiver (Jul 06, 2008 8:16 am)

And what was your dealer's cost to replace the latch, or was yours still under warranty? Luckily, we have just the one power door...if it was some ridiculous cost, we'd just use the driver-side manual door (though inconvenient). Of course, at 49K miles, ours is out of warranty.
 
Bill
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [uplanderguy] by swathdiver
Jul 06, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Jul 06, 2008 10:23 am)

In my motor crash book the part was listed at about $80 and labor about 1/2 hour.
 
   Ours was under the factory warranty which just expired. Because of these issues and the feeling I got that my local dealer no longer had competant mechanics we bought the extended warranty for a couple more years. I grew up working on computerized cars but to do so today requires a $3500 scanner and access to GM for the latest downloadable updates and such. Frustrating. I'd rather do the work myself.
 
   James
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [swathdiver] by uplanderguy
Jul 06, 2008 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: swathdiver (Jul 06, 2008 11:11 am)

Thank you, James, for the information. I wonder how much more a retail customer would be charged by the dealer, than the Motor book amounts. I trust my dealer, but I bet the 1/2 hr. would get bumped up to one hour. Maybe not. Really, the rates you quoted are quite reasonable. My door never has problems opening, although I did check the upper-rear area of the door and opening for missing paint as you had mentioned...just out of curiosity. All looked OK there.
 
Bill
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [uplanderguy] by allen383
Jul 23, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Jul 06, 2008 1:34 pm)

On the Sliding door problem our local dealership replaced the Sliding Door Control Module on our van approx. 6 months ago and solved the problem until now. Our van is out of warranty now, but I am forcing the dealership to fix it again under warranty. The New service manager thinks it is a different problem this time, and they are going to check it out again.
 
Also on the Headlight flickering if anyone has this problem, there is a cure to this in hooking up a resistor in line with the alternator, which our dealership did approx a year ago to fix the problem. GM doesn't offer the part, so they had to purchase it from an outside vender. So, I know this can be fixed easily.... The dealer can call their GM tech support to get the information in this..
 
Allen
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Re: Doors won't close and bells ring nonstop [allen383] by swathdiver
Jul 23, 2008 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: allen383 (Jul 23, 2008 3:30 pm)

I've heard of the resistor fix and another where the battery cable was shielded. My dealer played the "could not replicate" game until the last time I made an issue out of it. The previous visits were for other things that I considered priority and while annoying wasn't a safety issue. Anyhow, instead of following the TSB they soaked Pontiac for a new alternator and since they had to order it, gave us a loaded Caddy DTS to drive for 10 days.
 
My driver's side power sliding door issue was mostly fixed, it still acts up because its out of alignment, the body and door panels don't line up anymore. About 1 in 10 times the door will give us trouble opening or closing, it's catching on the rear pillar just as it opens or closes up top. When it gets worse we've decided to take it to another dealership who hopefully has better trained mechanics.
 
James

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