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BMW X5, SUV
#31 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [pp2009pp]
Sep 27, 2009 (3:59 pm)
"All I can say is: Caveat BMW. NEVER AGAIN."
For every individual that trashes the entire brand because they had a problem with one particular vehicle, you could hear plenty of positives stories. For example, I've had six X5's and have had zero trouble with any of them (with the possible exception of the 2001 X5 4.4i, which was the first model year of the first BMW SUV ever.) Even that first model only required one warranty service visit for the entire time that I drove it. None of my other X5s ever went back to the dealer for anything other than scheduled maintenance. Of the 15 BMWs that I've owned over the years, only one had a significant problem (2002 745i) and that problem was well documented and resolved under warranty.
I have significant experience (multiple vehicles, over 200 hours of track time, cross-country rallies, visits to factories on two continents, etc) with the brand and I have complete confidence in BMW's reliability.
Then I look at the "Learn More" ad to the right as I'm typing this response and see that the 2009 X5 has an Edmund's owner satisfaction rating of 9.1 out 10. Apparently, the major issue that you're having isn't common.
#32 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [anon3]
Oct 15, 2009 (2:58 pm)
You must be joking. The Edmunds owner satisfaction isn't even remotely scientific. It is a compilation of the views of some of the people who may or may not own the car and who have decided they wanted to spend some time sharing their views.
You have owned how many X5s? Do you drive them all for under 18 months...are you a dealer? How in the world do you get so many cars in such a short space of time?
What were you doing at the factories?
There is automobile experiences from those who are in the business and there is automotive experiences from the real world. Why don't you try out the 2009 X3?
#33 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [pp2009pp]
Oct 15, 2009 (5:02 pm)
I did mean to say that there are automotive experiences. The thing is, one bad egg will spoil the experience for the entire dozen.
#34 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [pp2009pp]
Oct 15, 2009 (8:21 pm)
isn't even remotely scientific.
Perhaps not but I've only been hearing one dissenting voice. That one is more scientific?
SUVs and Smart Shopper
#35 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [tidester]
Oct 16, 2009 (10:10 am)
None of it is scientific, remotely or otherwise. It is just internet commentary from anonymous sources so people have to take it with a pound of salt.
#36 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [pp2009pp]
Oct 16, 2009 (12:00 pm)
I used to think that consumer reports reliability info was relevant. It isn't because they send out surveys to subscribers who relate their car info through a computer form. Who takes the time to fill it out and mail it. Some are honest and objective. Some hate their car and some are on a mission to extoll the brand they drive. My guess is that the last two groups make up the majority of the responders. If your car is basically trouble free and you could care less about surveys you are part of the vast silent majority. The criteria for unrecommended vehicles is a problem ratio of 3% or more. Anything less than 3% is good to excellent. Pretty good odds for almost anything you could buy. The ratings depend on who is taking the time to fill out the survey's -- not just how the car is actually doing. Chevy Uplander anyone?
#37 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [jayrider]
Oct 16, 2009 (5:41 pm)
Consumer Reports is a joke. I stopped paying any attention to them back in '96 when they rated the '95 Ford Probe and the Mazda 626 (or whatever the version was). Anyway, they were the EXACT same car. CR rated the Ford as garbage and the Mazda as above average. That pretty much told me right there what to think about CR reviews.
By the way, I have never owner a Ford and don't particulary care for them. I just remember at the time what CR reported.
#38 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [paule]
Oct 17, 2009 (2:30 pm)
Someone said that CR recommended the Pinto and the Vega.
#39 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [pp2009pp]
Oct 17, 2009 (3:46 pm)
My 75 VW Rabbit won motor trends car of the year.
#40 of 61 Re: BMW X5 Computer Malfunction [jayrider]
Oct 18, 2009 (12:41 pm)
I thought the old Rabbits were nice cars. They were a bit tinny but they were easy to fix and durable from what I remember.
They could have had a better name though.