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#1188 of 1205 Re: Folding Mirrors [jeffyscott]
by backy
Jul 06, 2009 (8:19 pm)
Tight parking spaces in parking garages (public or home) is the big one for me. My vehicles with folding mirrors have saved me much grief and some money over the years. Currently the mirrors fold on 3 out of 4 of my family fleet. Fortunately, the one that doesn't have them almost never parks in a garage.
#1189 of 1205 Re: Folding Mirrors [jeffyscott]
by thegraduate
Jul 06, 2009 (8:20 pm)
You must never park in close quarters.
#1190 of 1205 Re: I like your two list idea [kingsalmon]
by colloquor
Jul 06, 2009 (8:38 pm)
Newly discovered reliability?? Funny, my 2006 Elantra has never had one failure, or warranty replacement, since purchase in December 2005. Oil and filter changes, and the normal maintenance schedule - that's it. The same can't be said for the last new Honda Civic I purchased - several warranty claims within the first year.
#1191 of 1205 Re: I like your two list idea [colloquor]
by thegraduate
Jul 06, 2009 (10:12 pm)
That's great anecdotal evidence, but I'm sure you know one car out of 300k won't necessarily represent a majority of them. Personally, my GF has a Santa Fe which I like, and I drive an Accord, which she likes. We've both replaced our CD Players/Changers under warranty, and she just had her sunglasses holder fixed.
Hers is an 07 with 16k miles, mine's an 06 with 49k miles.
Go figure.
Jul 07, 2009 (6:55 pm)
All four of our fleet have them and there a g-dsend. Parking in the garage can be tricky so we fold 'em in. Whomever parks on the driveway folds 'em in. Pulling into my side of the garage, I pull it in so I don't scrape against the brick surrounding the entrance. Did that numerous times with my 2 last drives.
The Sandman
#1194 of 1205 Mazda 3i touring man vs. Elantra SE
by joegiant
Jul 11, 2009 (4:09 am)
Just curious. What is it that the Japanese made Mazda has over the Korean made Hyundai to allow them to charge somewhere between $2500 to $3500 more for a comparably equipped car? I have looked at these two "economy cars" extensively and can only figure the 2010 Mazda is a new generation ("smiley face") while the Hyundai is still offering the '09 carryover from '08. Assuming the '10's in the Fall from Korea will be different? Backy...you out there? Your opinion is always appreciated. TIA.
#1195 of 1205 Re: Mazda 3i touring man vs. Elantra SE [joegiant]
by lilengineerboy
Jul 11, 2009 (7:09 am)
Just curious. What is it that the Japanese made Mazda has over the Korean made Hyundai to allow them to charge somewhere between $2500 to $3500 more for a comparably equipped car?
Drive them both. If you can't feel the difference and don't note any additional features, get the cheaper one. The Mazda isn't really marketed as an economy car, its a "premium small car." The Focus is an economy car.
I don't see how you get $2500-3500 more. According to Edmunds, the difference between an Elantra SE and a Mazda3i Touring is ~$100, and the Mazda3 comes with floor mats.
#1196 of 1205 Re: Mazda 3i touring man vs. Elantra SE [lilengineerboy]
by joegiant
Jul 11, 2009 (7:32 am)
From Fitzgerald's website: $16,286 for a Mazda3 i Touring (manual)...$13,662 for an SE (manual) w/mats (doesn't come with floor mats
). There's your $2500ish number. Can go up another grand depending on how you juice 'em with the various option combinations.
I've driven the Elantra SE. Rode like a new car. Imagine that. The 3 probably drives alot like my old Protege' with an engine (The Pro' only had a rat under the hood going around on a treadmill but admittedly the car could do corners if you could look beyond the rodent propulsion system.).
$3000 for...image? Again, not trying to be smart. Just curious as to what exactly causes the disparity in price between these two.
#1197 of 1205 Re: Mazda 3i touring man vs. Elantra SE [joegiant]
by lilengineerboy
Jul 11, 2009 (7:39 am)
From Fitzgerald's website: $16,286 for a Mazda3 i Touring (manual)...$13,662 for an SE (manual) w/mats (doesn't come with floor mats ). There's your $2500ish number. Can go up another grand depending on how you juice 'em with the various option combinations.
And one is a brand new just launched model and one is a 5 year old end of life model on closeout. Closeouts can be great deals, that's how I got my TV. Some of those options, according to Edmunds, are only offered on the Mazda.
I've driven the Elantra SE. Rode like a new car. Imagine that. The 3 probably drives alot like my old Protege' with an engine (The Pro' only had a rat under the hood going around on a treadmill but admittedly the car could do corners if you could look beyond the rodent propulsion system.).
$3000 for...image? Again, not trying to be smart. Just curious as to what exactly causes the disparity in price between these two.
Right...so you are comparing a brand new car, as you said, to your 15 year old car...yup sounds like a good plan. Like I said, drive both NEW cars, and pick which one is the best value for you.