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#1163 of 1205 Re: I've driven them all (almost)... [joe97] by backy

Nov 14, 2008 (9:34 am)

Replying to: joe97 (Nov 13, 2008 10:38 pm)
Most '09s have gone up in price vs. '08s, especially considering rebates or lack thereof. For example, an Elantra SE AT is now about $18,600 list with no rebates yet. Pretty pricey for an Elantra, more than the Mazda3i and Rabbit 3-door, and pretty close to the Impreza, Corolla LE, and Civic LX (with ESC on the Rabbit, Impreza, and Corolla ala the Elantra SE).

#1164 of 1205 Re: I've driven them all (almost)... [backy] by lhanson

Nov 14, 2008 (9:52 am)

Replying to: backy (Nov 14, 2008 9:34 am)
The same can be said for the 2009 Toyota Yaris's. It's hard to find any under $16,000 now, with some as high as $18,000. I paid full MSRP ($12,500) for my first one in 2006. You would think that GM, Ford, and Chrysler about to go out of business or something.

#1165 of 1205 Re: I've driven them all (almost)... [lhanson] by backy

Nov 14, 2008 (9:57 am)

Replying to: lhanson (Nov 14, 2008 9:52 am)
Or you would think that Toyota's sales are at record levels and gas was $5 a gallon.

#1166 of 1205 Thanks Backy and Shipo! by micweb

Nov 14, 2008 (10:16 am)

Helpful info from both of you.

#1167 of 1205 Re: I've driven them all (almost)... [lhanson] by no_one

Nov 14, 2008 (5:17 pm)

Replying to: lhanson (Nov 14, 2008 9:52 am)
Car prices seem to be going up across the board. I heard a rumor that this was due to the increase in steel prices.
 
Nissan seems to be the only one bucking the trend, with the new sub $10k Versa.

#1168 of 1205 Re: I've driven them all (almost)... [no_one] by joe97

Nov 14, 2008 (7:11 pm)

Replying to: no_one (Nov 14, 2008 5:17 pm)
Nissan seems to be the only one bucking the trend, with the new sub $10k Versa.
 
Put in a smaller engine, decontent up to wazoo, there you go. But wait, it is almost impossible to find a $9,995 barebone Versa sedan, and it is really barebone in that sense. By the time you load a few things up, bam, you're at 12-13K, which you'd then have a lot of other options to choose from, and probably better options.
 
Here is Autoblog's take:
 
Cheap, efficient transportation is highly desirable right now, and Nissan has stepped and delivered a super base Versa that will run you under 10 large. But what do you get for that rock-bottom MSRP? Well, you still get four wheels, four doors and six airbags, but things get thin from there. Nissan started with a one-two punch of crank windows and no air conditioning, making the economical sedan a bad choice south of the Mason Dixon line. A five-speed manual is standard fare, with automated cogs available for $1,000. Our friends over at Kicking Tires note that you also have to add A/C to the option box to get that slush box, and that'll run you a second $1,000. Nissan also saves coin by using cheap black plastic for the side mirrors and door handles, and the wheels have shrunk to 14 inches. Wait, where's the radio? Oh, there isn't one, at least not as standard equipment. Nissan provides the speakers and the wiring, but an aftermarket setup is required to hear anything other than road noise. Out the door pricing for a Versa with A/C and an automatic transmission will cost you at least $12,935 with destination. So much for being the cheapest car in the U.S.

#1169 of 1205 Re: I've driven them all (almost)... [joe97] by backy

Nov 14, 2008 (9:20 pm)

Replying to: joe97 (Nov 14, 2008 7:11 pm)
In comparison, the Civic DX also has no A/C and no radio, but does have power windows, 15" wheels, ABS, and a few other features not in the base Versa like height-adjustable driver's seat. But the Civic is also about 60% more. That makes the Versa look like quite a bargain--a modern if very basic car for under $10k list. As long as all you want is a bare-bones new car. But since lots of very nice used cars like 2008 Sonatas with low miles (and lots of factory warranty left), automatic, and all the safety features including ESC are available for about the same price as the bare-bones Versa with A/C and A/T, that does make it hard to fathom why anyone would buy a car like that in this day and age. I would have thought it was a great first car when I was a teenager though--much better than my '76 Corolla 2-door which also had crank windows and no A/C. But it did have a factory AM radio!

#1170 of 1205 Re: I've driven them all (almost)... [backy] by jeffyscott

Nov 15, 2008 (8:15 am)

Replying to: backy (Nov 14, 2008 9:20 pm)
I was a teenager though--much better than my '76 Corolla 2-door which also had crank windows and no A/C. But it did have a factory AM radio!
 
My first new car was an '86 Horizon, equipped just like that Corolla (though it was a 4-door) and it also had a 5 speed manual trans (that was a plus to me vs the 3 speed auto). I was no teenager, though...instead I was 26 and married with 2 kids.
 
None of my kids have bought new cars yet, but I think they will pretty much think like I do and would rather buy a less equipped new car than a loaded (newer) used car.

#1171 of 1205 '08 Accent by sandman46

Nov 15, 2008 (9:35 am)

In the process of buying this for my middle girl to take to her Epcot internship. Gettting the car with all the power goodies but they are bringing it in from a nearby location. Wife is putting down a deposit and as long as everything works, will be in our garage by mid-week. Color is dark gray over gray which is my favorite color. Guess I'll be parking my sled outside until mid December when she leaves.
Now to purchase a car for my oldest. She has her heart set on the Elantra but her available $ won't let her. She'll be bummed but will look at the Kia Spectra EX which is very similar but with a nice rebate at this time.
 
The Sandman
 
(I know that the Accent is below the bottom price point of this discussion, but I value the opinions of some who post in here. Please cut me some slack...lol!)

#1172 of 1205 Re: '08 Accent [sandman46] by backy

Nov 15, 2008 (2:01 pm)

Replying to: sandman46 (Nov 15, 2008 9:35 am)
There are some similarities between the Spectra and Elantra (e.g. pretty much the same powertrains), but one big difference is that ABS is standard on the Elantra and I'm not sure it's even available on the 2008 Spectra EX--I think Kia is making it an option for 2009 though. Also Kia is adding active head restraints to the Spectra for 2009, but the Elantra has them for 2008. Then there is the fact that Kia's resale value is lagging Hyundai's.
 
At least the Accent has ABS, since you got the power package which I think includes ABS.

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