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#1029 of 1070 Re: Alignment or defect? [benmiami] by thegraduate May 06, 2009 (7:10 pm)
Replying to: benmiami (May 06, 2009 6:28 pm) Drive on the left lane of the interstate, does it still drift right? Replies to this message: benmiami (May 07, 2009 5:52 am)
#1031 of 1070 Re: Alignment or defect? [benmiami] by bigdadi118 May 07, 2009 (5:06 am)
Replying to: benmiami (May 06, 2009 6:28 pm) google under "tire pulling" ... most likely one of the tire on front is defective during manufacturing. The quickest way to find out is "road force" test by a unique Hunter machine. Once pinpoint the problem tire then tire manufacturer will send a new one to exchange the bad one under warranty.
#1032 of 1070 Re: Alignment or defect? [thegraduate] by benmiami May 07, 2009 (5:52 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (May 06, 2009 7:10 pm) Yes, it drifts on any lane; whether accelerating or not.
#1033 of 1070 2010 Pilot by rexf May 09, 2009 (12:29 pm)
Does anyone have any information if Honda intends to address the shortcomings noted by Edmunds and others in the 2009 Pilot? Namely, marginal horsepower, lackluster fuel economy and lousy braking distances. I'm waiting for Honda to fix these issues, otherwise it looks like the 2010 Mazda CX-9 is the vehicle for me. Replies to this message: citivas (May 09, 2009 3:10 pm) poodog13 (May 11, 2009 9:04 am) citivas (May 11, 2009 9:23 am)
#1034 of 1070 Re: 2010 Pilot [rexf] by citivas May 09, 2009 (3:10 pm)
Replying to: rexf (May 09, 2009 12:29 pm) I have no idea but I doubt they will significantly improve those issues until they do another major model change and since the '09 is the first year of the model refresh that's unlikely for a while.   The fuel economy is not bad for its class -- slightly better than the CX-9 and on par with most other non-premium 3-row CUV's and meaningfully better than most premium CUV’s. The exception is the Highlander, which is best in class for fuel econ.   Personally I don't see the need for any more horsepower so I guess it’s just a matter of what your priorities are. I enjoyed the ride on the CX-9 but hated the poor cabin tech. The Pilot zooms when I need to, accelerating rapidly enough to pass without issue or get to full speed on a freeway on ramp, etc. I have accelerated to 60 faster than the times listed in some tests and have found it accelerates as well or better than my previous Lexus RX300, Explorer or Sienna. Don’t need any more since it’s a family car, not intended for the track. And it has enough power to haul as much or more than most of the CUV’s in it’s class, with a couple exceptions. And unlike most, it actually comes with the hitch and tow prep package standard in the Touring model. With the Toyota, they don’t even offer a factory hitch – you have to get a third party mod after the fact.   I’ve read about the poor braking too and have no basis to refute it since I don’t have a test track and haven’t been in an accident. I will say for normal braking, including some sudden stops, its better than our Toyota Sienna or our former Explorer’s or Lexus. The braking is much more natural than with the Toyota’s. From what I’ve read the issue in a true emergency has more to do with the tires than the vehicle but I’m not an expert.   The CX-9 is a great choice overall too. It won’t get you better fuel econ but the ride is nice. h Replies to this message: poodog13 (May 11, 2009 9:04 am) citivas (May 11, 2009 9:23 am)
#1035 of 1070 Re: Rear Wiper Blade [fastpitch_mom] by gregg15 May 09, 2009 (3:32 pm)
Replying to: fastpitch_mom (Apr 03, 2009 6:47 am) I had the same experience. I noticed my wiper was missing when I heard a grinding sound. Took it to my local Honda dealer. They told me they never heard of it. Replaced the blade. 3 days later it fell off again. I brought it back to the dealer and they blamed me. Would not give me a new wiper. I fought with them for a new window, since the car is under warranty and their product is defective. Apparently the manager spoke with corporate who would not cover it. I am really angry. This is a defective product and they are not covering it. They claim the owners manual clearly states that the wipers need to be taped for a car wash.   Apparently Honda is aware of this problem and there is a document that I have yet to obtain that acknowledges it.   Has anyone els had this problem? Replies to this message: thegraduate (May 10, 2009 1:37 pm)
#1036 of 1070 Re: Rear Wiper Blade [gregg15] by thegraduate May 10, 2009 (1:37 pm)
Replying to: gregg15 (May 09, 2009 3:32 pm) They claim the owners manual clearly states that the wipers need to be taped for a car wash.   Have you been to the car wash with it? Sorry if I missed that post.
#1037 of 1070 Re: 2010 Pilot [citivas] by poodog13 May 11, 2009 (9:04 am)
Replying to: citivas (May 09, 2009 3:10 pm) I too believe that the supposed shortcomings are overstated.   Most signficantly, I find it odd that the Pilot is criticized for both MPG and horsepower. The MPG rating is right in line with the other vehicles in the class, and the ones that do better are for the most part smaller in size / weight. I also find it interesting that Chevy has an entire ad dedicated to bashing the Pilot's MPG, when the Traverse gets ONE MPG better. If that's enough to sway you given the reliability histories of the two companies, you are easily swayed.   The horsepower is also perfectly adequate. Anything higher would, of course, reduce MPG. I haven't towed anything, but my other vehicle is a 265-HP Maxima, I have a lead foot, and while the Pilot doesn't rocket-start like my Maxima, I don't expect that it should.   As for the braking results, I too must abstain. Test results are what they are, but other than the ability to potentially avoid an accident, they say little about real-world driving conditions, and to this point I haven't noticed any issues. Replies to this message: citivas (May 11, 2009 9:23 am)
#1038 of 1070 Re: 2010 Pilot [poodog13] by citivas May 11, 2009 (9:23 am)
Replying to: poodog13 (May 11, 2009 9:04 am) Yeah, the Chevy ad made me laugh too. They must really be desperate if that’s the best favorable comparison they could come up with. It gets a whole 1 MPG better on the highway in EPA conditions (the city MPG is identical). Averaged out to real-world combined city/highway MPG per tank, it is a fraction of 1 MPG and within the statistical margin of error. Which means the actual mileage advantage of the vehicle is substantially less than the specific circumstances of the individual driving conditions and the driver. It’s certainly nothing to get excited about or base a purchase decision on…

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