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#113 of 170 Re: New Tire Available [lr3maybe] by steve_ HOST Jan 10, 2008 (8:10 pm)
Replying to: lr3maybe (Jan 10, 2008 9:12 am) If you no longer have your LR3, why are you still reading this forum?   Current owners, prior owners and non-owners are all welcome to participate here. If you don't care to read someone's post, scroll on down.
#114 of 170 stalled out by jvoto Jan 15, 2008 (6:51 am)
The dealer says he does not know what the alignment (camber and toe-end) adjustments are. These dealers and service managers have never been of any help. I'm grounded since my landrover lr3-06 is setting at an alignment shop and we dont know these settings. Its like everything is top secret at the dealership. How can I find out since i am 160 miles from a dealer. HELP Replies to this message: ssp1 (Jan 15, 2008 8:55 am)
#115 of 170 Re: stalled out [jvoto] by ssp1 Jan 15, 2008 (8:55 am)
Replying to: jvoto (Jan 15, 2008 6:51 am) Here is infor from a tech service bulletin in Oct 2006 205-005 - the toe settings are at the bottom   Uneven tire wear.  The steering alignment geometry of certain vehicles may experience some bushing settlement during early vehicle life. Following initial production geometry setting, this settling may alter the geometry settings outside of normal tolerance, which may in turn increase tire wear.   Revised geometry settings introduced after 6A403382 compensate for this situation. NOTE: This situation is not experienced on all vehicles. Toe sensitivity may be attributed to other factors.   CAUTION: Retailers who sublet alignment to outside shops must provide the information in this bulletin to the alignment facility to ensure proper settings when uneven tire wear symptoms are being addressed. Additionally all vehicles equipped with EAS sent for sublet alignment MUST have been placed in the "tight tolerance" geometry setting mode prior to delivery using IDS.   Action: Should a customer express a specific concern of uneven tire wear, refer to the Repair Procedure detailed in this bulletin to adjust the vehicle geometry to the "target" settings noted below. NOTE: In other situations requiring geometry adjustment, where a specific concern of uneven tire wear is not expressed or diagnosed, the geometry dimensions in the workshop manual should be used. A specific set of "target" geometry data is provided in this bulletin for use in vehicles where the geometry needs to be adjusted to correct an uneven tire wear concern.   PARTS: No parts required   WARRANTY: NOTE: Repair procedures are under constant review, and therefore times are subject to change; those quoted here must be taken as guidance only. Always refer to DDW to obtain the latest repair time.   NOTE: The revision to the time in this bulletin is the result of the introduction of the new IDS "tight tolerance" geometry setting mode for suspension adjustments. This simple IDS process replaces and eliminates the requirement to perform a suspension calibration (1.1 hrs) in association with the alignment process. Refer to Technical Bulletin LA204-007 for additional information about the geometry setting mode. DDW requires the use of causal part numbers. Labor only claims must show the causal part number with a quantity of zero. Description SRO Time (Hours) Condition Code Causal Part Place vehicle in "tight tolerance" mode using IDS and align suspension geometry 57.65.04 1.80 W6 ALGN4W   Normal warranty policy and procedures apply. REPAIR PROCEDURE ALIGN SUSPENSION GEOMETRY 1. If the vehicle has Electronic Air Suspension (EAS), refer to Technical Bulletin LA204-007, connect IDS to the vehicle and place the Electronic Air Suspension (EAS), into "tight tolerance" geometry setting mode. NOTE: A small number of coil sprung vehicles were imported into North America at the very start of LR3 importation. Step 2 is included in the event that such a vehicle requires suspension alignment.   2. If the vehicle has coil spring suspension, perform the following steps to ensure that the equivalent of a full tank of gasoline weight is present in the vehicle when the alignment process is performed: NOTE: LR3 fuel tank capacity is 22.7 US gallons (86.3 litres). A full LR3 fuel tank weighs approximately 152 lbs (69 kg). • Accurately determine the volume of fuel in the tank. • If the tank is not full, calculate the weight of the fuel in the tank using one of the following formulas: o Multiply the number of US gallons of fuel by 6.7 to equal total pounds of fuel. o Multiply the number of liters of fuel by 0.8 to equal total kg of fuel. NOTE: Any weight equivalent placed into the load space area must be evenly distributed at the front and the right hand side of the load space. • Calculate the weight equivalent that must be added to the load space area by subtracting the total amount of fuel currently in the tank from the LR3 fuel tank capacity of 152 lbs. (69 kg). NOTE: Vehicles that have any of the front or rear, upper or lower control arm bushings changed must complete a ten mile road test before having the geometry checked and adjusted if necessary. The road test will allow the suspension to settle.   NOTE: GTR lookup sequence is as follows: GTR Home > NAS > Service Information/ LA – LR3 > Workshop Manuals > Bookmark "Chassis/Suspension/204-00: Suspension System – General Information" Link "Four-Wheel Alignment (57.65.04)" CAUTION: GTR identifies an alignment specification range. The exact "TARGET SPECIFICATIONS" in the table below should be used on vehicles that have experienced uneven tire wear. When setting suspension geometry after front or rear/upper or lower control arm bushing replacement, the rear toe should be set to the TARGET SPECIFICATION in the table. 3. Refer to GTR section 204-00 Four-Wheel Alignment operation 57.65.04 and adjust the front and rear wheel alignment to the "TARGET" specification figures noted in the table below: TOE ADJUSTMENT TARGET SPECIFICATIONS (decimal degrees) Front total toe + 0.03 Left-hand rear toe + 0.18 Right-hand rear toe + 0.18 Rear total toe + 0.36
#116 of 170 Re: 06 LR3 tire issues @ 20,500 miles [arcjones] by cmazazotta Jan 25, 2008 (1:27 pm)
Replying to: arcjones (Oct 04, 2007 12:33 pm) Hi, I just brought my 06 LR3 into the dealer due to a hole in one of the side walls and they told me I needed to change all 4 tires due to extensive wear at only 18k miles and it would cost arouond $1400.00, are you kidding me. Not only did a $55,000.00 car have a donut for a spare which nearly made me SH_T when I saw it but they said they were not covered by LRNA or the tire manufacturer [GY]. Were you told that LRNA would cover uo to 20K mile, if yes by who.   Thanks for your help... Replies to this message: ssp1 (Jan 25, 2008 2:40 pm) jboiter (Jan 26, 2008 6:06 am) ssp1 (Jan 26, 2008 12:01 pm)
#117 of 170 Re: 06 LR3 tire issues @ 20,500 miles [cmazazotta] by ssp1 Jan 25, 2008 (2:40 pm)
Replying to: cmazazotta (Jan 25, 2008 1:27 pm) My GYs went nearly bald at 18K miles. The dealer essentaly paid about 1/2 the cost for a new set of tires. I talked to independant tire dealers who all said getting over 20K miles on the good years would have been lucky. so in the end i am not sure 18K is that bad considering. that said I replaced the old tires with Michelins and i am 12K into the new tires with no appreciable wear. i dont think it matters how much the car costs rather how much it weighs. and the fact that the GY tires arent that great. i suggest working hard to get a discount on the new tires. i think LRNA honors a credit up to 18K mileage or something like that.(so i was told)
#118 of 170 Re: 06 LR3 tire issues @ 20,500 miles [cmazazotta] by jboiter Jan 26, 2008 (6:06 am)
Replying to: cmazazotta (Jan 25, 2008 1:27 pm) wasn't really told anything. i had complained about my rear tires cupping, starting around 13k. i took it back for the 3rd time at around 18k, and they said the wear was within the tolerance to give me 2 tires. i only paid for alignment - about $160. i'm at 23k now, and the fronts are getting close to needing replacement. my predicament now is - do i get 2 new gy's to match the newbies on the back, or break bad and get new rubber all the way around...my dealership is in charlotte, nc. they have been cooperative so far. Replies to this message: ssp1 (Jan 26, 2008 12:01 pm)
#119 of 170 Re: 06 LR3 tire issues @ 20,500 miles [jboiter] by ssp1 Jan 26, 2008 (12:01 pm)
Replying to: jboiter (Jan 26, 2008 6:06 am) 2 of shit is still shit. i would get new tires and bite the bullet. or just know that you will likely face the same issues. be sure to rotate at 5K evertime - i know that helps
#120 of 170 2003 Discovery tires by kriznak Jan 28, 2008 (11:09 am)
Hi all,   First time posting... we have a 2003 Discovery with about 55k miles on the original Goodyears (bummer about some of the other readers whose GYs wore out prematurely!). These have been good, thinking it makes sense to keep the same tires as the spare, but Costco has the Michelin's and BFGs for about $900. I've had good luck with Michelins in the past...   Any thoughts/suggestions? Much appreciated.
#121 of 170 LR3 Dealer alignment voodoo??? by mikeno Feb 27, 2008 (2:38 pm)
I've had a 2006 LR3 for about a month. 24K miles. Pleased with it so far and knew it would need new tires soon as the GY's are shot, surprise! However, the dealer is pressuring me into buying Pirellis from him, at nearly $1500. I can get same/similar tires down the street (or from Tire Rack.com) for $800.   The dealer claims he is the only person who can do the alignments, has the special lug nut wrench, can do a lug-based balancing and a lot of other technical jargon. Even if I get the tires somewhere else he STRONGLY recommends I come in for a $450 alignment and balancing. He has to lower the air suspension using his magic computer to get everything right. Is this legit? Can the average tire store install new tires on an LR3? Do they need to be checked up on by the LR dealer? Replies to this message: ssp1 (Feb 27, 2008 8:39 pm)
#122 of 170 Re: LR3 Dealer alignment voodoo??? [mikeno] by ssp1 Feb 27, 2008 (8:39 pm)
Replying to: mikeno (Feb 27, 2008 2:38 pm) ive had tire shops strip the lug nuts because apparently it needs a certain size wrench. how bout an independant land rover service center? is there one in your area? Or buythe tires and bring them to the dealer (a pain but if it saves 800 dollars that something). i would only want a certified LR mechanic doing the alignment etc just because of the TEch service bulletin out on this issue (and someeone on here may know much more than i do). See ifthere is an independant service center in your area. if the local land rover club can recommend one perhaps they will be honest enough to tell you if they have the right equipment etc

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