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#109 of 171
Yoko A/T-S's too by bgsntth
Jan 09, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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I went with the A/T-S's as they are within 2% of OE diameter, are only a few pounds heavier than the GY's, HR-rated, and thus OK with my LR Dealer. Can only speak to on-road performance, but they are smoother and quieter with better hydroplane resistance than the GY's. Dry/Wet grip seem about the same, though I never purposely explore the limits of my beast. They are much quieter and smoother than the Revo's I had on my recently sold GX. I really liked the Revo's for grip on/off-road, but they were significantly heavier, a tad louder, and less smooth than the GX's OE Michelin's.
#110 of 171
Re: New Tire Available [lr3looser] by lr3maybe
Jan 10, 2008 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: lr3looser (Jan 09, 2008 2:49 pm)

Hi lr3looser,
Sorry you did not have good luck with your LR3. As mentioned by others, there are some unhappy owners of every vehicle brand or model.
Your Land Rover dealer owner blames the LR3 suspension for destroying any tire. As with vehicles, there are good dealers and not so good dealers. As evidenced by the owners on this forum, not all LR3's eat tires.
 
We are glad you have sold your LR3 and hope you have a happy new life with your Tahoe. They must be nice vehicles as evidenced by there being so many on the road. Hopefully you will have better luck with it than with the LR3.
 
If you no longer have your LR3, why are you still reading this forum? You should not reply to this question because you should have moved on with your life and be reading the Tahoe forum.
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Re: New Tire Available [ssp1] by lr3maybe
Jan 10, 2008 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: ssp1 (Jan 09, 2008 9:14 am)

I replaced my factory Goodyears at about 6000 miles. At that point they were still quiet and smooth and showing no uneven wear. But I wanted a more aggressive tread for off road, and I was concerned about the reports that they might not last long and they get noisy (as do most tires as they wear). Added to that, I had an unrepairable flat in one of my Goodyears. It was just a small hole but was in the sidewall. I had purchased the road hazard warranty from Discount Tire for my factory Goodyears when I bought the truck so Discount Tire offered to replace the tire. Instead, I struck a deal to trade in my 4 (I had the full size spare) good tires on any new set I wanted and also apply the retail price of the damaged one to the new set. Discount Tire lent me a suitable spare until the new Nittos came in, then sold me a better used spare tire when they got one with the size and tread I wanted to keep.
 
So, my original Goodyears were still quiet at 6000 miles. My Nittos seemed just as smooth and almost as quiet. They don't howl on the highway, but they do have a bit more road noise. But they also have a lot more contact area since they are bigger. I can ride comfortably with the windows open. I'm sure there was a tradeoff with a bit more noise and more rolling resistance, but I wanted a vehicle I felt comfortable with off road and the Goodyears didn't do it for me.
 
At 8000 plus miles on the Nittos, I haven't noticed any more noise than when new.
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Re: New Tire Available [lr3maybe] by ssp1
Jan 10, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: lr3maybe (Jan 10, 2008 9:23 am)

Thanks thats good to know. i am interested in getting those tires in a few months. I have michelin latitude tour and those are not off road tires at all. that said i went through some nasty deep mud and snow on a very steep "road" up and down hills with little to no problem. The mud/ruts setting in low gear is a miracle worker as is the hill descent control
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Re: New Tire Available [lr3maybe] by steve_ HOST
Jan 10, 2008 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: lr3maybe (Jan 10, 2008 9:12 am)

If you no longer have your LR3, why are you still reading this forum?
 
Current owners, prior owners and non-owners are all welcome to participate here. If you don't care to read someone's post, scroll on down.
#114 of 171
stalled out by jvoto
Jan 15, 2008 (6:51 am)
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The dealer says he does not know what the alignment (camber and toe-end) adjustments are. These dealers and service managers have never been of any help. I'm grounded since my landrover lr3-06 is setting at an alignment shop and we dont know these settings. Its like everything is top secret at the dealership. How can I find out since i am 160 miles from a dealer. HELP
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Re: stalled out [jvoto] by ssp1
Jan 15, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: jvoto (Jan 15, 2008 6:51 am)

Here is infor from a tech service bulletin in Oct 2006 205-005 - the toe settings are at the bottom
 
Uneven tire wear.
 The steering alignment geometry of certain vehicles may experience some bushing settlement during early vehicle life. Following initial production geometry setting, this settling may alter the geometry settings outside of normal tolerance,
which may in turn increase tire wear.
 
Revised geometry settings introduced after 6A403382 compensate for this situation.
NOTE: This situation is not experienced on all vehicles. Toe sensitivity may be attributed to other factors.
 
CAUTION: Retailers who sublet alignment to outside shops must provide the information in this bulletin to the alignment facility to ensure proper settings when uneven tire wear symptoms are being addressed. Additionally all vehicles equipped with EAS sent for sublet alignment MUST have been placed in the "tight tolerance" geometry setting mode prior to delivery using IDS.
 
Action: Should a customer express a specific concern of uneven tire wear, refer to the Repair Procedure detailed in this bulletin to adjust the vehicle geometry to the "target" settings noted below. NOTE: In other situations requiring geometry adjustment, where a specific concern of uneven tire wear is not expressed or diagnosed, the geometry dimensions in the workshop manual should be used. A specific set of "target" geometry data is provided in this bulletin for use in vehicles
where the geometry needs to be adjusted to correct an uneven tire wear concern.
 
PARTS:
No parts required
 
WARRANTY:
NOTE: Repair procedures are under constant review, and therefore times are subject to change; those quoted here must be taken as guidance only. Always refer to DDW to obtain the latest repair time.
 
NOTE: The revision to the time in this bulletin is the result of the introduction of the new IDS "tight tolerance" geometry setting mode for suspension adjustments. This simple IDS process replaces and eliminates the requirement to perform a suspension calibration (1.1 hrs) in association with the alignment process. Refer to Technical Bulletin LA204-007 for additional information about the geometry setting mode. DDW requires the use of causal part numbers.
Labor only claims must show the causal part number with a quantity of zero.
Description SRO Time
(Hours)
Condition
Code Causal Part
Place vehicle in "tight tolerance"
mode using IDS and align suspension
geometry
57.65.04 1.80 W6 ALGN4W
 
Normal warranty policy and procedures apply.
REPAIR PROCEDURE
ALIGN SUSPENSION GEOMETRY
1. If the vehicle has Electronic Air Suspension (EAS), refer to Technical Bulletin LA204-007, connect IDS to the vehicle and place the Electronic Air Suspension (EAS), into "tight tolerance" geometry setting mode.
NOTE: A small number of coil sprung vehicles were imported into North America at the very start of LR3 importation. Step 2 is included in the event that such a vehicle requires suspension alignment.
 
2. If the vehicle has coil spring suspension, perform the following steps to ensure that the equivalent of a full tank of gasoline weight is present in the vehicle when the alignment process is performed:
NOTE: LR3 fuel tank capacity is 22.7 US gallons (86.3 litres). A full LR3 fuel tank weighs approximately 152 lbs (69 kg).
• Accurately determine the volume of fuel in the tank.
• If the tank is not full, calculate the weight of the fuel in the tank using one of the following formulas:
o Multiply the number of US gallons of fuel by 6.7 to equal total pounds of fuel.
o Multiply the number of liters of fuel by 0.8 to equal total kg of fuel.
NOTE: Any weight equivalent placed into the load space area must be evenly distributed at the front and the right hand side of the load space.
• Calculate the weight equivalent that must be added to the load space area by subtracting the total amount of fuel currently in the tank from the LR3 fuel tank capacity of 152 lbs. (69 kg).
NOTE: Vehicles that have any of the front or rear, upper or lower control arm bushings changed must complete a ten mile road test before having the geometry checked and adjusted if necessary.
The road test will allow the suspension to settle.
 
NOTE: GTR lookup sequence is as follows:
GTR Home > NAS > Service Information/ LA – LR3 > Workshop Manuals > Bookmark "Chassis/Suspension/204-00: Suspension System – General Information" Link "Four-Wheel Alignment (57.65.04)"
CAUTION: GTR identifies an alignment specification range.
The exact "TARGET SPECIFICATIONS" in the table below should be used on vehicles that have experienced uneven tire wear.
When setting suspension geometry after front or rear/upper or lower control arm bushing replacement, the rear toe should be set to the TARGET SPECIFICATION in the table.
3. Refer to GTR section 204-00 Four-Wheel Alignment operation 57.65.04 and adjust the front and rear wheel alignment to the "TARGET" specification figures noted in the table below:
TOE ADJUSTMENT
TARGET
SPECIFICATIONS
(decimal degrees)
Front total toe + 0.03
Left-hand rear toe + 0.18
Right-hand rear toe + 0.18
Rear total toe + 0.36
#116 of 171
Re: 06 LR3 tire issues @ 20,500 miles [arcjones] by cmazazotta
Jan 25, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: arcjones (Oct 04, 2007 12:33 pm)

Hi, I just brought my 06 LR3 into the dealer due to a hole in one of the side walls and they told me I needed to change all 4 tires due to extensive wear at only 18k miles and it would cost arouond $1400.00, are you kidding me. Not only did a $55,000.00 car have a donut for a spare which nearly made me SH_T when I saw it but they said they were not covered by LRNA or the tire manufacturer [GY]. Were you told that LRNA would cover uo to 20K mile, if yes by who.
 
Thanks for your help...
#117 of 171
Re: 06 LR3 tire issues @ 20,500 miles [cmazazotta] by ssp1
Jan 25, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: cmazazotta (Jan 25, 2008 1:27 pm)

My GYs went nearly bald at 18K miles. The dealer essentaly paid about 1/2 the cost for a new set of tires. I talked to independant tire dealers who all said getting over 20K miles on the good years would have been lucky. so in the end i am not sure 18K is that bad considering. that said I replaced the old tires with Michelins and i am 12K into the new tires with no appreciable wear. i dont think it matters how much the car costs rather how much it weighs. and the fact that the GY tires arent that great. i suggest working hard to get a discount on the new tires. i think LRNA honors a credit up to 18K mileage or something like that.(so i was told)
#118 of 171
Re: 06 LR3 tire issues @ 20,500 miles [cmazazotta] by jboiter
Jan 26, 2008 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: cmazazotta (Jan 25, 2008 1:27 pm)

wasn't really told anything. i had complained about my rear tires cupping, starting around 13k. i took it back for the 3rd time at around 18k, and they said the wear was within the tolerance to give me 2 tires. i only paid for alignment - about $160. i'm at 23k now, and the fronts are getting close to needing replacement. my predicament now is - do i get 2 new gy's to match the newbies on the back, or break bad and get new rubber all the way around...my dealership is in charlotte, nc. they have been cooperative so far.

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