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Honday Odyssey 2000 - Is my Transmission Failing by 09norcim
Nov 06, 2008 (5:22 am)
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We have a 2000 Odyssey with 130,000 miles. It has been services at Honda dealer (except timing chain 100K Service and 2-3 oil changes). At 100,812 miles I felt some hesitation into 2nd gear, at that time Honda Dealer rode 23 miles with laptop hooked and stated in report no DTCS stored. They told me the transmission is fine.
 
Now a week ago, under hard acceleration when going into second gear rpm goes from 3500 to 4500. Slow acceleration driving is fine.
 
What should I do? Take it to Honda dealer and see if they will share the cost if transmission is failing?
 
Or take to the private shop that I trust. Jasper Engines lists one for $2,711.00 http://webapp.jasperengines.com/webcat/catalog.asp.
 
I had a good relationship with dealer and Honda, They had replaced EGR and Catalytic Convertor with paying for material and dealer gave a goodwill on labor. I was 7,000 miles over warranty.
 
Recently lost my job would like to avoid a nightmare of expenses.
 
Thanks!
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Update By 09norcim by 09norcim
Nov 06, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: 09norcim (Nov 06, 2008 5:22 am)

I took the van to a Jasper Engine & Transmissions installer. They rode the van found no codes or could not repeat the problem.
 
I think that the problem comes in the morning when transmission oil is cold.That's what they told me that the problem could be occurring at cold starts. The transmission oil was changed by Honda 13,000 miles ago. Jasper shop told me that the oil level is little high and color is darker than what is should be for a 13K mile change. He told me not the change the oil as it may accelerate the problem and the Honda oil contains a "detergent".
 
I do not have any malfunctioning "Check Engine or flashing D light". Jasper Transmission is $4,200.00 installed with 3 year or 100K warranty. The shop can rebuilt locally for $2,700K with 3 year or 50K warranty with labor covered if rebuilt fails. Jasper has a labor coverage plan for $150 in case of a failure. The shop owner who has been in business for 20 years told me to go with Jasper if I want to keep the van for many years (which I really want since it is extremely clean inside and outside).
 
Next week I have an appointment with Honda Dealer to pay him $96 for testing transmission. However I doubt if they can found any code also if nothing is flashing? I don't know if I should pay them 100 dollars for finding nothing.
 
There is no downshifting problem, only on occasion it takes a second to engage to get into 2nd gear with RPM jumping approx 1000 under pedal to the metal.
 
Last time American Honda covered me after warranty for (EGR & Catalytic convertor) when I told them in my immediate family there are 4 Odysseys and 2 Acuras. One Acura had a transmission failure under 36K miles.
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2005 transmission needs replacement in only 43000 miles by 2000glxstick
Nov 06, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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We bought our 2005 Honda Odyssey EX new in March 2005. Now with only 43,000 pampered miles and perfect maintenance, it supposedly needs a new transmission. Its a shame that I'm out of warranty, but the "identical" car in '06 carries a 5-year 50k and I'd be fully covered.
 
It shows absolutely no codes and doesn't even light the trouble light, but the lockup function isn't working at 45mph when trying to maintain speed on level pavement. Honda did a data scan and it shows that it is alternating between 90% and 100% lockup. It does this about as fast as a heartbeat so the RPMs on the tach jump about a 100rpm every second.
 
The tech says its not the PCM or the lockup solenoid or a pressure issue or anything else. They are basically saying it needs a new transmission I think because they don't field-replace torque converters. And the kicker is that the replacement would be a remanufactured transmission!!! That makes me nervous of a repeat, especially given that I probably have fewer miles than the vast majority of trannys that are remanufactured.
 
I've tried to scan and search these threads for a couple days but there's not so much info on the latest generation vans.
Any second opinions or insight how to get the best deal or alternatives to the dealer? I've thought about trying to replace the torque converter which I can get online for low $400s but I really don't have solid confidence just what the issue really is.
 
As far as I can tell, this transmission has been discontinued after 2006 (only a two-year part) and now the Odyssey uses the same transmission as the Pilot, but I don't know if I can swap in a Pilot transmission without a new PCM and they may have even changed other components to accomodate the change?
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Re: good post [coredump] by 2000glxstick
Nov 06, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: coredump (Jan 08, 2008 4:13 pm)

Fast forward 10 months...I'm another 2005 owner with developing transmission issues and I just learned about this helpful forum and also learned to my shock that the best I can get from Honda is a remanufactured transmission.
 
See my post #858 at
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Honda Service Bulletin 06085 Warranty Extension by 2000glxstick
Nov 07, 2008 (11:31 am)
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Can anyone tell more info about Honda Service Bulletin 06085, NHTSA item number 10021968 dated May 9 2008 updated 8/18/08 with summary: Warranty Extension: Vehicle warranty mileage. *KB 2002 through 2006 and some 2007 Fit models
 
If this means that Honda intends to extend the mileage coverage, my transmission may be eligible for full replacement.
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Re: Honda Service Bulletin 06085 Warranty Extension [2000glxstick] by rfreitas
Nov 07, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: 2000glxstick (Nov 07, 2008 11:31 am)

I would like to know, if that is the case, they need to pay me back for mine.
 
It doesn't say what part if getting extended or to what mileage. Is there not a detailed description some where? I wonder if a dealership would know.
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another tranny bites the dust by odyfamily
Nov 07, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Just want to report our 2000 Honda oddyssey trannsmission is in failure. We have 104k on it with the original transmission replaced at 70k with a rebuilt transmission.....in the process of writing to Honda America to request help with replacing again. The transmision went out as my wife was in heavy traffic and barely avoided a major accident.
 
Please, if you are in the same sit., send your vehicle info to the NHTSA as well as any lawyers covering past or present lawsuits.
 
Thanks to all who have posted...we will report back Honda's reposnse.
 
Not sure if we would ever buy a Honda again unless Honda decides to have a 10yr/100k powertrain warranty. Honda needs to decide if they are going to stand behind their products or not.
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'TCS , ABS, AND PARKING BRAKE LIGHT" by inshan
Nov 07, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Hi Everyone,
                 I own an 2001 Odyssey and sometimes I notice when I start the engine the tcs,abs and parking brake light stays on, I usually turns of the engine for a few seconds then restart and it usually comes off, has anyone here has any idea or experienced this problem before?.
 
Thanks so much.
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Re: Honda Service Bulletin 06085 Warranty Extension [rfreitas] by bigdadi118
Nov 08, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: rfreitas (Nov 07, 2008 12:39 pm)

I think faster than actual mileage odometers were installed to some Honda models. There's a law suit re this and I think Honda extends extra 5,000 miles in warranty due to this.
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"TRANSMISSION FLUID FILTER" by inshan
Nov 08, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Hi everyone,
                I'm just curious if anyone here ever replaces their transmission fluid filter when changing the fluid? The Honda dealership says they doesn't change the filter but with so much transmission failures I'm just wondering if it might be a good idea to request the filter to be change during my next service.
Thank you.

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