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'02 Honda Odyssey Transmission Failure @ 82k
by txbud
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Mar 02, 2007 (3:44 pm)
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Failure to shift from 2nd to 3rd gear. Transmission went out with wife & 4 kids stuck on freeway at night. Not good. Took it to my certified mechanic who tested and found PO730 incorrect gear ratio and PO845 3rd clutch pressure switch. changed selinoid and check engine light went out but tranny still does'nt shift 2-3. Took it to dealer. Diagnosed code P1750..."Hyro control failure" Transmission needs replaced. Quoted $5,895! I about fell over. (Honda Cars of McKinney...history of poor service...if in north texas avoid at all costs!) Called Honda. Gave me following process to follow: 1. get formal diagnosis from Dealer; 2. Call Honda and give info from invoice; 3. Honda will submit a case for review and then get back to w/in 72 hours with decision on what, if any, help will be offered. Just completed my part of process...I'll keep everyone posted on their response.
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- #64 of 1297
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Re: '02 Honda Odyssey Transmission Failure @ 82k [txbud]
by sml2
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Mar 02, 2007 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: txbud (Mar 02, 2007 3:44 pm)
Here is an update on our '04. We called Honda USA who asked to go to another dealer. The new dealer determined that the Transmission needed to be replaced. I was told that the Torque Convertor (I am not a car guy so this may be wrong) was falling apart and getting cught up in the transmission. The dealer called Honda USA, and lo and behold they agreed to replace the transmission with a Honda rebuilt one.
I must say that we are pleased that Honda took responsiblity, and lived up to what I expected.
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- #65 of 1297
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Re: Park to Reverse Odyssey Transmission Issue [rsmiedema]
by devs01
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Mar 21, 2007 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: rsmiedema (Feb 11, 2007 1:01 pm)
I have the same exact issue with my '04 Odyssey and it has 31,000 miles. Could you please post the outcome of your service call. Thank you.
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- #66 of 1297
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Re: Park to Reverse Odyssey Transmission Issue [devs01]
by rsmiedema
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Mar 22, 2007 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: devs01 (Mar 21, 2007 9:55 am)
Sure. No problem. I took my Odyssey to a reputable shop for a transmission service. They serviced the transmission and called the Honda dealership to check on the issue; which I did not expect. The local Honda dealership stated that there was little they could do if the transmission is not slipping. Once it starts to slip, then they can look at taking action to diagnose the issue. The reason for this is because they would not be able to duplicate it since it only happens the first time you shift to reverse that day. After having my transmission service, the cluck is not as loud or prevalent as before, but it is still there when I shift into reverse first thing in the morning. All I could recommend is to get your transmission serviced to see if it helps, but that sucks since you only have 31K and the manual recommends that it be done at 45K for normal use. The good thing is that they should be able to tell you if there is unusual wear and tear on the gears because they will see the metal shavings in the pan when they drop it. I hope this helps.
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- #67 of 1297
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Re: Park to Reverse Odyssey Transmission Issue [rsmiedema]
by devs01
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Mar 23, 2007 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: rsmiedema (Mar 22, 2007 11:16 am)
Thank you for taking the time to report on the outcome of your service - I really appreciate it.
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- #68 of 1297
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Re: Park to Reverse Odyssey Transmission Issue [devs01]
by txbud
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Apr 05, 2007 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: devs01 (Mar 21, 2007 9:55 am)
Sorry for the delayed response/update. Up front, I appologize for the length...unbelievable Bitter-sweet experience with Honda. Basically, here's how my situation evolved. Tranny stopped shifting 2nd to 3rd ('02 Odyssey 82k). Reputable independent mechanic told me to take it to Honda as there were known problems. Took to my local dealer where i purchased the Odyssey, they diagnosed that the transmission needed replaced. while i waited for their quote I did research and found tons of info on failure. Printed 15 or so pages and took with me. Dealer quoted $6000 to replace. They said they hadn't seen any of these issues previously. I showed them all the documentation. Approached service manager about issue and asked for his help in getting this replaced through Honda. He told me...exact quote: "You're not my customer...you haven't had this Honda serviced here." I explained that not only had i purchased the Odyssey but that this dealer had paid me three referral fees for referring friends that in turn bought 2 Odyssey's and a Civic. His response: "I run a service business. You want to talk to sales, they're located on the other side of the building." (btw: Honda Card of McKinney texas...STAY AWAY AT ALL COSTS!!)I was stunned. I took their diagnosis and called Honda USA and opened case after two weeks of Honda haggling with Honda of McKinney they finally agreed to offer me "50% of warranty replacement cost" when i asked how much that was Honda USA referred me to dealer but assured that dealer knew the situation and would have a price. Returned to dealer and asked about their "offer" and requested the price. Blank stare. was told it would take 3 hours of paper work to figure out. I said fine, but i need to know before i agree to work. 1 full day later and two additional visits, they finally called my wife with quote of $1800 to replace the tranny...and told me that i needed a new AC for a mere $3500. (Just had the AC replaced two months earlier.) Better price but didn't feel right. Made a phone call to Honda dealer in neighboring town (David McDavid Honda of Frisco). Immediatly they said that they see this problem all the time and would gladly take care of the problem. Two phone calls and vehicle site-unseen, they quoted me labor cost of $800 to replace tranny. Needless to say I immediatly pulled Odyssey from Honda of McKinney and took to David McDavid. Three days later, all work completed for amount quoted. Awesome experience. Amazing contrast in dealers. BTW...they checked the AC for me and said it was in perfect working order. Lessons learned: 1. definately pays to be educated and informed; 2. Near as i can tell, Honda always covers the cost of the part as it is a known, well documented defect...DEALER HAS COMPLETE DESCRETION ON HOW MUCH THEY CHARGE YOU; 3. Don't be afraid of pulling business and going to competitive dealership...I had ZERO push back from Honda USA and it was clear that the dealer made the call on how to deal with customer. (in case you're wondering, i never raised my voice, no tantrums, firm but polite...I actually surprised myself  Hope this info may help some other that are dealing with same issue.
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- #69 of 1297
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Re: Park to Reverse Odyssey Transmission Issue [txbud]
by bobber1
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Apr 05, 2007 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: txbud (Apr 05, 2007 3:05 pm)
That's a great story. It sounds like Honda has good and poor dealers just like everyone else. I'm surprised they let them get way with it however.
Thanks!
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- #70 of 1297
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Re: Park to Reverse Odyssey Transmission Issue [rsmiedema]
by pgnagel
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Apr 06, 2007 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: rsmiedema (Mar 22, 2007 11:16 am)
I have to make a few statements about transmission servicing. We own a 1999 Odyssey with 130,000 miles and the original transmission. We purchased the van in October, 2003 with 55,000 miles and a tranny that was reluctant to shift.
I have serviced that transmission myself at least six times. What's my point? My point is that a 45,000 service interval for ANY automatic transmission is bunk, despite what the service manual says. In my opinion the MAXIMUM mileage for service should be 24,000 miles or two years. I personally think all Odyssey transmissions should be serviced annually. The transmission has no filter, only a magnetic drain plug and two internal filter screens that are not serviceable. My opinion again, but that is irresponsible engineering, and smacks of planned obsolescence.
Servicing the transmission annually will greatly reduce the amount of sludge and junk inside the transmission and will significantly prolong the life of any automatic transmission.
To service your Odyssey tranmission you will need three and a half quarts of Honda transmission fluid and a new crush washer. The fluid is about six dollars a quart, and crush washers are usually about two for a dollar. The net cost is about twenty dollars a year. In my book that is cheap insurance and is your best bet against an expensive repair bill. The whole operation can be done with simple hand tools and a drain pan. Even if you have no tools, your total investment in tools for this project is less than thirty dollars.
By the way, our TCS light does come on occasionally for no apparent reason, along with the Check Engine light. I know this is a pretty good sign of pending failure, but I am just going to grit my teeth and keep plugging along until it fails. Also, every time I service that transmission the van shifts smoother for months.
I hope this helps.
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- #71 of 1297
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00 tranny problems
by waveposer
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Apr 11, 2007 (7:00 pm)
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I have read the messages but still have a question. My Honda with 125k , while in cruise control and going up a slight incline reaved RPM from 2k to arounf 4k. I thought my wife hit a patch of ice and she pulled over to let me drive. The tranny slipped while taking off and then would slip shifting from 1-2 and 3-4. By the time I got it to the next exit, It would only drive in 2nd gear and would not even shift into reverse. Took it to the dealer they stated a code P0730 and need 900.00 to replace all solenoids.They flushed tranny and replaced fluids and tranny shifts harder than normal but is driveable while I make my decision on how to handle the issue. Talked to a few tranny repair places they stated that the solenoid problem is only a symptom but not the problem. they stated that debris in the tranny is sticking to the solenoid causing the problems with the solenoids and my tranny is on the way out. Has anybody tried replacing just the solenoid or had this diagnosis? Everybody I talk to outside of Honda tells me to throw my money at a rebuild rather than the solenoids.
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- #72 of 1297
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Re: 00 tranny problems [waveposer]
by txbud
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Apr 13, 2007 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: waveposer (Apr 11, 2007 7:00 pm)
I had at least one solenoid replaced and though all others tested to be working fine, the transmission suffered a complete failure just days later. About three months before this i had a complete transmission flush/recondition which may have postponed the issue but obviously didn't prevent the inevitable. Given the history of this tranny, and the nature of the problems you discribed...i'd say your tranny is on it's death bed.
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