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#590 of 2416 Re: 03 Odyssey Transmission Problems [glennkhoury]
Mar 24, 2008 (6:45 pm)
"does anybody know if the warranty was extended for this transmission?"
No. Free extended warranty because of failures and lawsuit on 1999-2001 4 speed auto to 93 mo and 109K miles for U.S.A. market vehicles. Not Canadian market. Transmission changed to 5 speed in 2002.
"safety recall in 2004. I think they put a band aid on a problem then and Honda knew what would eventually happen"
Safety recall is installing an oil jet to lubricate the 2nd gear so it will not lock up from no lubrication. Common failure is third gear clutch. A totally different problem. Third gear clutch overheats, prematurely wears out, slips and clogs the transmission with clutch junk. Not cured by the oil jet.
I am in the same boat as you, owner of failed Odyssey transmission.
#591 of 2416 Re: 03 Odyssey Transmission Problems [panmax]
Mar 25, 2008 (6:32 pm)
Good news! Honda offered to reimburse us 75% of the cost of a replacement transmission. Still double checking on reimbursement of rental. We're still in negotiations about 100% reimbursement. That would be great news!
#592 of 2416 New Tranny for 01' Leaking at first/Now OK & Dealers Actual Costs!
Mar 25, 2008 (7:27 pm)
Recently returned from the dealer with a new remanufactured tranny and torque converter in our 01' with 102K miles replaced at no cost due to the recall and lawsuits.
I've maintained this Ody with more than the required Z1 drain and fills (every 7.5K-15K-singles, 2 3X complete exchanges) plus have had a Magnefine filter downstream on the return line and had hoped for a longer life but no go. This was the 1st replacement tranny FWIW.
For the 1st 85K, original tranny functioned flawlessly. The last 17K, I perceived a noticeable whine in 1st gear that increased in pitch till the shift. Also at highway speeds for the last 5K was a whine in 4th gear in overdrive between 75-80 mph. I'd imagine THIS was a sure indicator of something about to happen as to hear it inside with all the road and mechanical noises abound, it must have been pretty loud after all. Shifting between F/R has been fine with no clunking even on sub-freezing days though.
Last Friday I drove out on a typical 20 degree morning and within 1/4 mile the TCS, CEL, and D4 light came on after I went over our alley speed check bump. As I tried to turn left, the tranny slipped as if it was in neutral though the vehicle progressed slowly. Upon shutting off the engine and immediately restarting, the CEL remained and all lights turned off.
Interestingly, the rest of the weekend for over 300 miles of driving the tranny functioned as before with no more problems. Of course that morning I took it in and the dealer started the paperwork to authorize a replacement.
Upon notifying me of the part arrival, dropped it off on Tues. morning with the anticipation of completion by Wed. evening, which WAS accomplished.
Upon driving off the lot, I immediately pulled over to inspect things. Was curious to see what they did with my Magnefine filter and noted a entirely new return line installed by the radiator with the old output line remaining.
I then listened carefully and drove for about 20 blocks starting and stopping shifting through 2 or 3 gears. The 1st gear whine was still there though it was hardly noticeable. Shifting was smooth and positive as expected. Upon reaching the on ramp of the expressway I eased on in 2nd gear and punched it to check downshifting with a positive smooth engadgement and perfect 6K rpm upshift at about 50 mph. Proceeded to drive between 70-90 mph to check on the high speed whine and noted it had all disappeared.
Arriving home I drove onto the ramps to inspect underneath out of curiosity. Interestingly this trannies case had not been repainted but was rather quite dirty. I noted the new drain bolt and many of the mounting bolts had new white paint on it. The sub case housing the torque converter was marked "new" and definitely looked it. Also noted a series of white Honda markings and numbers were on several locations.
Had left the vehicle in park during this examination for about 15 mins. having the fan cycle on and off for several cycles.
Then I noticed some tranny fluid had formed a small droplet between the torque coverter housing and engine! I wiped off the area and observed for another 10 mins. and it seems like there is some very minor leak....DRATS! Not the way to end this saga!
Perhaps there was some fluid spilled from the exchange? Nevertheless I will watch carefully the next day or so and if it continues, will have the dealer address this issue.
Upon checking out had me sign a work order outlining Honda's costs but I was not allowed to keep a copy? Mine had the same information but no figures listed, so I took it upon myself to write them on my form just for reference.
Below is the pertinent data with the INTERNAL costs for this exchange and what Honda is ALLOWING this dealer for labor rates/reimbursement:
Tranny/Torque Converter Exchange Kit - $1,370
Labor at 6.5 hrs. - $632
Wheel alignment .6 hrs. - $58
Clean Rad/Tran Cooler .3 hrs. - $29
ATF Z1 $7 Qt. - $36
Note the sub $100 shop rate, which is LESS than what they usually charge...Chicago has some pretty humongous labor rates....
In conclusion, this tranny shifts really nicely and all the quirks of the old one are essentially gone. Just will monitor the leak and address it if it remains....
Morning After Followup Report....
Last night before I took it out for a 26 mile errand, a quarter sized spot of tranny fluid was observed on the floor. Confirmed the source was the tranny/block location.
Returned to see that engine area was dry, perhaps due to the wind from the drive?
8 hours later this morning, NO MORE TRANNY FLUID, on the floor nor at the tranny casing/engine block!
Will continue to monitor but feel much better now.....
#593 of 2416 Re: New Tranny for 01' Leaking at first/Now OK & Dealers Actual Costs! [chiody]
Mar 25, 2008 (7:52 pm)
Can you tell me which dealer this was? I also live in Chicago.
#594 of 2416 Used 2000 Odyssey
Mar 26, 2008 (1:58 pm)
I just bought used 2000 Honda Odyssey with 98K miles. I don't know if the first owner had the transmission replaced or not, but he had water pump replaced at 80K miles (without timing belt replaced). His dealer said the belt was still good.
I have question:
It takes all the way up to 3500rpm before my van changes to second gear from full stop. Is it normal? If I don't push it hard, it changes to second gear around 2500rpm. My van is running ok, but I want to know if that is normal. Please advice!
#595 of 2416 Re: Used 2000 Odyssey [t2odyssey]
Mar 26, 2008 (2:13 pm)
Your shift point is normal.
Have you read the posts in this forum about the transmission problems? You have 110k mile warranty on your transmission. See this website link title
My advice: spend $60 take the van to your local Honda dealer & ask them to check the transmission for you. Doing this will help when you fight the battle for reimbursement when the your tranny fails & it will fail shortly. You now have paperwork ammunition showing that it was checked by Honda.
#596 of 2416 08 Tranny issues?
Mar 26, 2008 (7:00 pm)
I know its kinda early, but has anyone had problems with the 08 tranny issues? Did Honda do anything different for the 08's compared to the 07's? Wife really likes the look and convenience of the Ody compared to the Sienna but I'm in limbo because of all the problems. I have always been fond of Toyotas although my Sequoia had to get the oxygen sensor replaced at 20k. Thanks to all who will reply!
#597 of 2416 Re: 08 Tranny issues? [kennynmd]
Mar 26, 2008 (8:31 pm)
I would recommend a Dodge Caravan. It is cool. Besides, it comes with lifetime powertrain warranty. Give American cars a chance. You would be very pleased with them.
#598 of 2416 Re: Used 2000 Odyssey [t2odyssey]
Mar 26, 2008 (8:56 pm)
With easy acceleration, I can shift to 2nd below 2K. Moderate pedal pressure will move the shift point upwards of 3K. However with the majority of instances, the shift occurs around 2.2K.
These shift points occurred with both trannys.
The most disconcerting thing was there no hint of impending failure other than a whining in 1st gear and at 75-80 mph.
#599 of 2416 Recommend Dodge Caravan [angelaychu]
Mar 27, 2008 (5:20 pm)
AGREE except all Caravans are now called GRAND Caravan. A T&C clone is equally reliable.
WHY buy an Odyssey when the Odysseys are having too many transmission failures?