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#45 of 1281 Re: Failing Transmission on 2000 Odyssey from Canada [blackexv6] by mstrange Dec 30, 2006 (4:41 pm)
Replying to: blackexv6 (Dec 29, 2006 3:56 am) Thanks for everyones input. The dealer told me that the van was Canadian and that they had converted it. They did say that they were selling me a third party warranty, but I understood it to be a "better" deal (third party warranty was longer than standard) as they had imported the van and converted it. I did believe the dealer (which is my mistake) that there was no difference. Also, I paid list price for this van. In 2000 there was a waiting list for these and they had an ad of new Vans in stock and I went over. So buying this allowed me to get the van instead of wait 3-6 months. Hind-sight says that I should have waited, but I listened to the dealer.   I have not talked to the dealer as of yet since this happen just before Christmas and I thought that I need to be talking to the service manager and he may be out this week due to vacation. So my plan is to go just after the new year and see what they have to say. I will update this when I have additional info.   Another question for all - I still love this van and would like to keep it. If I need to put a transmission in it myself, what are my best options (costs, dependability etc.) and how dependable are the new transmissions as I see some having two or three replaced? Thanks for your help!   One other question is I see many from 1999-2003 vans listed having this issue. Was this fixed in 2004 and newer?   Mike Replies to this message: cgf (Jan 19, 2007 1:43 pm) sotero (Jan 25, 2007 2:15 pm) tms5 (Apr 17, 2008 10:50 am) glennkhoury (Apr 19, 2008 3:30 am)
#46 of 1281 Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [blackexv6] by post4edmunds Dec 30, 2006 (9:56 pm)
Replying to: blackexv6 (Dec 29, 2006 7:13 am) I bought a new '00 Odyssey EX online from carsdirect.com.   (An aside: Back in 2000, the EX was in high demand and there was a $5K market premium which I refused to pay to the dealer. Enter carsdirect.com. I ordered the car through the web site, chose my color, put down a $1K deposit on my credit card. Very cool. I paid MSRP but no market premium to carsdirect. When I took delivery of the minivan a couple of weeks later, I happened to see carsdirect.com's delivery papers and noted that online company had, in fact, paid a $3K market premium to the dealer from whom the Honda Odyssey was acquired. The cost of the premium was not passed on to me! Needless to say, the carsdirect does not directly sell cars anymore. End Aside.)   Transmission failed at 108K in 2004 -> Took to a local dealer -> a repair rep was nice enough to whisper to me that this condition was quite common and well-known and if I raised a stink, Honda would cover the replacement. I did (create a stink), and they did (cover it 100%). Transmission failed again at 128K. Covered again, 100%. This one was tricky since, technically, the 12K/12 month warranty was expired. However, the dealer went to bat for me and Honda covered the cost 100%.   Now the car has 158K and I am shopping for an '07 EX-L or Touring. Does anyone know if the transmission problem has been fixed definitively in the '07 Odyssey model? Or should I go w/ the Sienna XLE Limited AWD?   Finally, I agree with the many previous posts which imply that Honda should be held to a higher standard than other automakers when it comes to quality. If a non-Honda tranny fails, on average, at around X miles, a Honda tranny should fail, on average, at Y miles, where Y miles is much larger than X miles.   After all, Honda automobiles command a price premium and Honda has successfully built a strong brand on the back of its reliability history. The Honda brand is a promise (for you marketing experts) to us consumers which the Company needs to fulfill. If it can't deliver on that promise, either the brand needs to step off its pedestal or the prices need to come back to Earth (or both)...   So, is the transmission fixed in the '07 models? Replies to this message: blackexv6 (Dec 31, 2006 4:08 am) rduel (Jan 27, 2007 7:35 am)
#47 of 1281 Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [post4edmunds] by blackexv6 Dec 31, 2006 (4:08 am)
Replying to: post4edmunds (Dec 30, 2006 9:56 pm) I think it is safe to say the transmission problems have been addressed in the '07 Odyssey. The '07 has a 4-shaft design shared with the Ridgeline & Pilot. If it were me, I would buy the '07 & not worry about a tranny failure.
#48 of 1281 Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey EX shifting problem [blackexv6] by rockdoctor Jan 05, 2007 (12:31 pm)
Replying to: blackexv6 (Nov 21, 2006 11:44 am) I've got a 1999 Odyssey that is on its 3rd tranmision. The The first on went with about 80k on it and Honda replaced it free. The next time with 120k Honda said that it would cost $4,000 for a rebuilt transmition.   I had it rebuilt for $1,800. The gentleman who did the work said that the problem was that metal was flaking off of the torque converter and clogging the filter screens, which caused low fluid levels and pressure.
#49 of 1281 Re: Transmission problem in 2002 ody [fezo] by brutscher1 Jan 06, 2007 (11:08 am)
Replying to: fezo (Nov 22, 2006 7:57 am) I just returned from Florida, w/o our 02 Odyssey because the second transmission failed at 101,000. The Honda dealership went to bat with Honda and got the 3rd transmission replaced for free (including labor). Basically Honda is using rebuilt transmissions of the same design, with the same flaws so I would guess that yours will fail sometime before 200K.
#50 of 1281 Re: Failing Transmission on 2000 Odyssey from Canada [mstrange] by cgf Jan 19, 2007 (1:43 pm)
Replying to: mstrange (Dec 30, 2006 4:41 pm) Mike,   My situation sounds somewhat similar to yours. I bought a 2000 Odyssey in November of 1999. It is a Canadian "grey market" vehicle, which I bought in Washington from a non-Honda dealer with a third party warranty that has long since expired. About two weeks ago, the "check engine" light came on. After checking with Honda, they suggested that we drive it for a while to see if it would go off on its own. It did go off after about a week, but promptly came back on again. We then took it to a Honda dealership, who said that the error code for this problem (P0740) required that the transmission be replaced. We haven't actually had any problems with the transmission yet, so I was a little shocked. After doing some research, I've found that the transmission problems are fairly common after all. I was just wondering what happened in your particular case. If anyone has any adcvice, I'd love to hear it. Thanks. Replies to this message: sotero (Jan 25, 2007 2:15 pm) tms5 (Apr 17, 2008 10:50 am) glennkhoury (Apr 19, 2008 3:30 am)
#51 of 1281 Re: need help taking transmission apart [pgnagel] by mechacknic Jan 21, 2007 (8:16 pm)
Replying to: pgnagel (Nov 17, 2006 6:00 am) Sorry I got quiet on this topic for too long. Yes, I did get the transaxel open, put in the rebuild kit, closed up, back in the car, and it seems to be working fine. Here is what I learned: It comes apart from the back, there are 3 large gears (in series) that have size 34 mm nuts holding them on to large threaded shafts. Those have to come off first. Beware: two of them are LH threads, and the other is RH. What makes no sense at all is that the one RH threaded nut is not the one in the middle. All 3 nuts are have flanges that are dinged into a flat spot on each shaft so they have to be cut with a cold chisel before they will come off. Once I had the nut flanges cut, I rented an impact wrench to give me the power to get the nuts off without using a long torque arm since it is hard to keep the gears from spinning. When the tranny went back into the car, it apparently had some serious leaks. By that time I had it taken to a (thankfully honest) transmission shop who said that there were just some loose "plates" and a bad seal. They took care of the leaks and the transmission worked. The only other note of interest is that the kit I bought (from Makco) did not have everything in it that I needed. Specifically I had to buy a filter and 3 replacement nuts for those 3 large gears (they have to be cut off with a cold chisel). Good luck if you decide to tackle this one yourself. Dustin
#52 of 1281 Re: 2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) [hondalover10] by jkgreyhound Jan 24, 2007 (9:35 am)
Replying to: hondalover10 (Oct 28, 2006 8:19 pm) Thank you HondaLover for your detailed description. Our 2002 Odyssey "torque converter/clutch system" failed. And the Honda Dealership was going to charge us $4480 to put in a re manufactured transmission.   Based on your experience and after talking with local transmission places, I learned that this chronic problem. I called back the dealership and they reduced the price to just labor ($800). Much better...not a gift...but better.   I wish others luck with this issue.
#53 of 1281 Re: Failing Transmission on 2000 Odyssey from Canada [cgf] by sotero Jan 25, 2007 (2:15 pm)
Replying to: cgf (Jan 19, 2007 1:43 pm) Hi,   I am in the same boat. With the 2000 ODY still at the dealers and renting a car until I figure out what to do. The dealer told me initially he would exchange it but took three days to tell me (today) that it would not be covered. When I bought the van I also got the 3rd party warranty from Heritage that served me for very little. In less than a year from getting the van it had a leak in the gas tank and I had to hop between three dealers to find one that would take that "good for nothing" warranty. I would also like to hear some advise in this matter.
#54 of 1281 Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [post4edmunds] by rduel Jan 27, 2007 (7:35 am)
Replying to: post4edmunds (Dec 30, 2006 9:56 pm) I bought my 2000 Odyssey EX in November 1999. In January 2007 at 116,000 miles, I noticed oil leaking from under engine area. Dealer said it was tranny, and that the fix required a new (rebuilt) transmission. I have never had a transmission fail on any car I've owned before, and felt that due to "Honda's reliability" claim, I certainly wouldn't have to worry with the Ody, especially since every recommended service in the manual was performed by my Honda dealer,everything except new tires, including the transmission fluid flushes,etc., which I've not done to any of my other vehicles. At 116k miles, dealer says the tranny replacement cost is $2700, however, because I was such a good customer, I only have to pay half that cost. I'm thinking.........with all the tranny problems with this premium vehicle, we shouldn't have to pay squat. But what's a guy to do? You need the vehicle and can't trade it that way. Then you read where a rep advises someone else that Honda will cover the replacement if you yell enough.(?) Anyway, so much for following service recommendations on the tranny. I could have saved that money toward the eventual tranny replacement cost. Now I'll sit back and wait for the replacement tranny to fail, as other postings have indicated.

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