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Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [veenstra56] by blackexv6
Dec 29, 2006 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: veenstra56 (Dec 29, 2006 6:20 am)

The extended 109k mile warranty covers the vehicle whether you buy it from a Honda dealer or private sale.
 
I bought my '00 Odyssey used from a Toyota dealer & they replaced my transmission twice with no questions asked. It helps if you establish a repoir with a local Honda dealer & use them for service maintenance, oil changes, etc.
 
Also, most of the transmission failures occurred on the '99-'01 Odyssey's with the 4-speed auto. The '02+ Odysseys have a 5speed transmission.
 
My opinion you should buy the car if you like it. The '03 & '04's are probably the best Odysseys to buy. They hold their value so be prepared to pay $$$$.
 
A new '07 EX costs around $26k so weigh it out. I personally think the '03,'04's are built much better than the new ones (I own a '00 & '06 Ody). My new one has a droning defect that cannot be fixed & it is truly a shame we have to live with an otherwise great car.
 
If you have the VIN# you can check the coverage on the Honda transmission settlement webite.
 
Here's the link link title
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Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [blackexv6] by bobber1
Dec 29, 2006 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Dec 29, 2006 7:13 am)

Blackexy6,
 
Good posts.
 
I'm just curious why the heck you hung onto your Odyssey after the first transmission went out?? Especially since you know there is a design flaw. I would have dropped it like a ton of bricks after getting it fixed and moved onto bigger and better things(and yes probably would have switched to a Toyota who has had none of these problems)
 
Knocking on wood, I'm glad I just bought a new 2007 Honda Odyssey EX.
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Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [veenstra56] by panmax
Dec 29, 2006 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: veenstra56 (Dec 29, 2006 6:20 am)

"would I be covered by Honda's 109k tranny warranty if:
1) I buy used '03 Odyssey"
 
Comments for USA market cars only, not Canada, not grey market. For USA market, some were made in Canada. Here is a link about the class action lawsuit. http://www.hondatransmissionsettlement.com/php/login.php
 
No. Not 2003 model. Original warranty 3yrs 36000 miles on 2002-2004. Or per extended warranty if bought at extra cost, time and mileage limits vary with price of extra cost warranty options. On 99-2001, 7 years, 100,000 miles extended warranty for free on transmission only. Class action lawsuit is 109,000 miles or 93 months on 99-2001 Odyssey and several other Honda Acura transmissions. Not for 2002-2004 Odyssey.
 
"2) I buy from a NON-Honda dealership."
 
Possibly if it is within warranty or class action lawsuit.
 
"3) I don't go to a Honda dealership to have tranny fluids
    changed "
 
Maybe if Honda repair place believes you changed ATF by the recommended schedule.
 
"Also, is there a way to determine if one particular Odyssey is problematic vs. another simply by looking at the VIN number? "
 
Odysseys as a group for that year have problematic transmissions. Even if the recall repair was done.
 
"Or would Honda give me this information if I called them?"
 
Might deny everything. At least local dealer denied that any problem existed.
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Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [bobber1] by blackexv6
Dec 30, 2006 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Dec 29, 2006 5:44 pm)

The first transmission failed around 90k & the second around 97k. I'm not sure why the replacement failed so quickly but we have 136k on it now.
 
Basically, we kept the car because it is paid off & couldn't trade in with 100k miles. So...we are running it for free except gas & oil changes. Actually, I like it better than my wife's new '06 Odyssey EXL/NAV/RES...much smoother & quieter engine.
 
I am leasing next time because Honda runs great money factor specials & they have probably the best lease programs (for moderately priced cars).
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Re: Failing Transmission on 2000 Odyssey from Canada [blackexv6] by mstrange
Dec 30, 2006 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Dec 29, 2006 3:56 am)

Thanks for everyones input. The dealer told me that the van was Canadian and that they had converted it. They did say that they were selling me a third party warranty, but I understood it to be a "better" deal (third party warranty was longer than standard) as they had imported the van and converted it. I did believe the dealer (which is my mistake) that there was no difference. Also, I paid list price for this van. In 2000 there was a waiting list for these and they had an ad of new Vans in stock and I went over. So buying this allowed me to get the van instead of wait 3-6 months. Hind-sight says that I should have waited, but I listened to the dealer.
 
I have not talked to the dealer as of yet since this happen just before Christmas and I thought that I need to be talking to the service manager and he may be out this week due to vacation. So my plan is to go just after the new year and see what they have to say. I will update this when I have additional info.
 
Another question for all - I still love this van and would like to keep it. If I need to put a transmission in it myself, what are my best options (costs, dependability etc.) and how dependable are the new transmissions as I see some having two or three replaced? Thanks for your help!
 
One other question is I see many from 1999-2003 vans listed having this issue. Was this fixed in 2004 and newer?
 
Mike
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Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [blackexv6] by post4edmunds
Dec 30, 2006 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Dec 29, 2006 7:13 am)

I bought a new '00 Odyssey EX online from carsdirect.com.
 
(An aside: Back in 2000, the EX was in high demand and there was a $5K market premium which I refused to pay to the dealer. Enter carsdirect.com. I ordered the car through the web site, chose my color, put down a $1K deposit on my credit card. Very cool. I paid MSRP but no market premium to carsdirect. When I took delivery of the minivan a couple of weeks later, I happened to see carsdirect.com's delivery papers and noted that online company had, in fact, paid a $3K market premium to the dealer from whom the Honda Odyssey was acquired. The cost of the premium was not passed on to me! Needless to say, the carsdirect does not directly sell cars anymore. End Aside.)
 
Transmission failed at 108K in 2004 -> Took to a local dealer -> a repair rep was nice enough to whisper to me that this condition was quite common and well-known and if I raised a stink, Honda would cover the replacement. I did (create a stink), and they did (cover it 100%). Transmission failed again at 128K. Covered again, 100%. This one was tricky since, technically, the 12K/12 month warranty was expired. However, the dealer went to bat for me and Honda covered the cost 100%.
 
Now the car has 158K and I am shopping for an '07 EX-L or Touring. Does anyone know if the transmission problem has been fixed definitively in the '07 Odyssey model? Or should I go w/ the Sienna XLE Limited AWD?
 
Finally, I agree with the many previous posts which imply that Honda should be held to a higher standard than other automakers when it comes to quality. If a non-Honda tranny fails, on average, at around X miles, a Honda tranny should fail, on average, at Y miles, where Y miles is much larger than X miles.
 
After all, Honda automobiles command a price premium and Honda has successfully built a strong brand on the back of its reliability history. The Honda brand is a promise (for you marketing experts) to us consumers which the Company needs to fulfill. If it can't deliver on that promise, either the brand needs to step off its pedestal or the prices need to come back to Earth (or both)...
 
So, is the transmission fixed in the '07 models?
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Re: Thinking of buying a used '03... please advise [post4edmunds] by blackexv6
Dec 31, 2006 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: post4edmunds (Dec 30, 2006 9:56 pm)

I think it is safe to say the transmission problems have been addressed in the '07 Odyssey. The '07 has a 4-shaft design shared with the Ridgeline & Pilot. If it were me, I would buy the '07 & not worry about a tranny failure.
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Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey EX shifting problem [blackexv6] by rockdoctor
Jan 05, 2007 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Nov 21, 2006 11:44 am)

I've got a 1999 Odyssey that is on its 3rd tranmision. The The first on went with about 80k on it and Honda replaced it free. The next time with 120k Honda said that it would cost $4,000 for a rebuilt transmition.
 
I had it rebuilt for $1,800. The gentleman who did the work said that the problem was that metal was flaking off of the torque converter and clogging the filter screens, which caused low fluid levels and pressure.
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Re: Transmission problem in 2002 ody [fezo] by brutscher1
Jan 06, 2007 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 22, 2006 7:57 am)

I just returned from Florida, w/o our 02 Odyssey because the second transmission failed at 101,000. The Honda dealership went to bat with Honda and got the 3rd transmission replaced for free (including labor). Basically Honda is using rebuilt transmissions of the same design, with the same flaws so I would guess that yours will fail sometime before 200K.
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Re: Failing Transmission on 2000 Odyssey from Canada [mstrange] by cgf
Jan 19, 2007 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: mstrange (Dec 30, 2006 4:41 pm)

Mike,
 
My situation sounds somewhat similar to yours. I bought a 2000 Odyssey in November of 1999. It is a Canadian "grey market" vehicle, which I bought in Washington from a non-Honda dealer with a third party warranty that has long since expired. About two weeks ago, the "check engine" light came on. After checking with Honda, they suggested that we drive it for a while to see if it would go off on its own. It did go off after about a week, but promptly came back on again. We then took it to a Honda dealership, who said that the error code for this problem (P0740) required that the transmission be replaced. We haven't actually had any problems with the transmission yet, so I was a little shocked. After doing some research, I've found that the transmission problems are fairly common after all. I was just wondering what happened in your particular case. If anyone has any adcvice, I'd love to hear it. Thanks.

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