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2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) by hondalover10
Oct 28, 2006 (8:19 pm)
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On a recent quick family trip to San Diego, my 2002 EXL suddenly begain to shift un-naturally from 2nd to 3rd gear. Fwy traffic was stop-go & the tranny would shift 1-2, then in 2nd gear would suddenly soar to about 4000 rpm, before clunking quite loudly into 3rd gear. It repeated & appeared to be getting worse, so we turned around, went home and dropped the car off at our local dealer who had always given us exceptional service. At 73K miles and out of warranty, I was needless to say worried about the possibilities of a $3000++ repair bill.
 
I looked through my repair records and noted that I had taken the car in a few years earlier for a transmission recall, where they installed an "oil jet kit" to put more lubrication into the engines 2nd gear area, to help keep it cool, a known 5 spd odyssey tranny problem & what seemed like a responsible thing for honda to do to recall all odysseys to check for existing damage and as a precaution, do this free service. Searching on the web, I found was alittle upset to find alot of discussions regarding Odyssey tranny problems at the National traffic Safety administration (apparently some people had even worse experiences of them locking up - a safety hazard) and there was even a stop sales order from Honda to all its dealers for all 2002 odysseys until they could all be fixed with this kit in april 2004. This was not an isolated incident.
 
My dealer was somewhat non-committal when I brought it in, but eluded to the fact that Honda had often "gifted" repairs on these cars (he admitted honday was not happy about how many cars had problem!). I was very happy when a day later, my dealer called, saying honda would replace the transmission with a new model, which had all the latest fixes, at no charge (parts or labor). Although this may sound like a "gift", its something I personally expect from honda or toyota, given the premium we pay for their products and their strong reputation and committment to quality. I have my car back, it drives like new, Im alittle uncertain as to what whether they will "gift me again" if I have problems in say another 15K miles (my next door neighbor is on his 3rd or 4th tranmission on a 2001 Acura - "all gifted"), but my confidence in honda is once again maintained by how I was treated. I also love my local orange county dealer, who has never let me down now for many years. I urge anyone in similar situation to use their dealer, then if they dont get proper resolution, call honda directly and complain quite bitterly. I do believe they understand the value of repeat business, of the power of the consumer network regarding these things, and especially with honda, have an incredible pride and desire to be recognized as an ultra high quality manufacturer. The web is also a great resource to see whether you are truly the 1 in 1000 or whether your problems are systemic and something which a manufacturer has a responsibility to resolve.
 
I do wonder why honda did not simply extend the warranty on the transmission to 100K for the 2002 as they did for the 2000-2001. Unless people are making things up on the web, 2002's and even 2003's still have quite a few transmission problems, but they appear resolved to work them one by one after people complain. The only thing that could have made my experience better is not having to worry that Id be taken care of (which a simply warranty extension would have done). Im also slightly miffed about the lack of information about what actually was wrong. My cars engine light code was P1750 (clutch pressure failure)and of course I was told, my problem wasnt the same as those I cited to them as reading about so widely. I am an engineer though and dont believe that one bit. Im sure the dealers have strict rules with Honda Corp reg what to say to consumers.
 
Best of luck to others in similar situation
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need help taking transmission apart by mechacknic
Oct 29, 2006 (6:38 pm)
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I have a 1999 Odyssey with 122K+ miles on it. The transmission recently started having trouble shifting and I (brazenly?, foolishly?) decided to rebuild it myself. I bought a rebuild kit from Makco and am ready to go.
 
I have the transmission off from the car and have removed all of the various outer parts and the torque converter. I have taken off the back cover and removed the shift rod linkages on the back. I have removed the bolts around the perimeter of the case and I can separate the front section from the mid-section of the case by approx. 5/8" but that is as far as it will go. It seems that it might be hanging up on the main shaft somehow but I don't see how.
 
Can anyone tell me the magic key to finish opening up the case so that I can get to the clutches, bands, etc. inside?
 
I appreciate any advice.
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Transmission #2 by heatherzg
Nov 02, 2006 (10:37 am)
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We bought a '99 Odyssey EX with 70K miles on it in 2002 having had great luck with Hondas in the past. 45 days after we bought it at CarMax we were told it needed a new transmission. Had it replaced and paid labor only, then the recall came out and they paid us back for the labor. Fast forward to last week, the lights are on again and now it is making awful noises. It has about 125K miles on it now. We are afraid that the replaced transmission needs to be replaced again and that its not worth the money to do it at this point, were planning to trade it in for a Civic in 9 months or so anyway. Any experience with having the replacement transmission fail? Any advice for dealing with the dealership?
 
Thanks.
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frustrated honda owner/transmission by sal75024
Nov 05, 2006 (6:31 am)
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I bought (brand new at the time) a 2000 Honda accord coupe. At 32,000 miles I noticed that I was having problems with the transmission. The dealership replaced it for free under the original 36,000 mile warranty. Since 2002, I have replaced 4 transmissionsunder the recall. The dealership took care of me but what about all the hassles for me and wondering if this will continue. I decided to call the Honda plant in Ohio and get this resolved. They agreed 4 transmissions was ridiculous and offered to put in a brand new one if it happened again. (not reconditioned)
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Re: Transmission #2 [heatherzg] by sal75024
Nov 05, 2006 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: heatherzg (Nov 02, 2006 10:37 am)

I own a 2000 Accord coupe that is under the transmission recall. Since 2002, I have replaced 4 transmissions under the warranty. Your new transmission should be covered and they should continue to replace it until your issue is resolved. The problem is-the replacement transmissions are not new and all reconditioned through Honda....
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Re: 2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) [hondalover10] by ody02tjk
Nov 10, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: hondalover10 (Oct 28, 2006 8:19 pm)

HondaLover10:
 
We are in a similar situation as you have detailed. We have a 2002 EX-L, bought new, serviced always at Honda Dealer, with 61750 miles. Transmission started slipping a few weeks ago. This past Monday, we had the 60K service done (including another tranny flush and fill). Yesterday, it was slipping in 2nd gear almost constantly. Took it in today, and they are telling us new transmission (at $4500), and will NOT be covered. We did not buy at extended warranty, as we did not think it would be needed. What were you able to do to get your dealer and/or American Honda to cover the cost of your repair? Any idea on what needs to be said in order to get them to "gift" the repair? Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
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Re: 2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) [ody02tjk] by heatherzg
Nov 10, 2006 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: ody02tjk (Nov 10, 2006 8:45 am)

We just got ours back today having had the rebuilt transmission replaced again. Honda footed the bill for the transmission, we paid for labor ($700). The first time my husband went in armed with information from the web that Honda was offering a "good will" warranty on the transmission and they were willing to go along with it. This time there was little discussion, we have been working with the same service advisor so he took care of it. Best of luck!
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Re: 2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) [heatherzg] by ody02tjk
Nov 13, 2006 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: heatherzg (Nov 10, 2006 3:26 pm)

I heard from the dealer on Friday, and they offered at rebuilt transmission, with Honda paying for the parts, and we need to cover the installation. I was quoted $750 for the work. Do you know if any one is getting Honda to cover the entire cost on any of the 2002 Odyssey's? What exactly is their "goodwill" warranty? Was there any warranty for the rebuilt transmission? If so, for how long? This is our first transmission rebuild....how many have you had done?
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Trans failure, no warranty coverage for Canadian vehicle by steelers0118
Nov 14, 2006 (4:42 pm)
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I purchased a used 2001 EX (from friends), knowing that they had gotten it from a broker and that it came from Canada, but had no idea what a mess that could lead to. Now my transmission has failed, my local dealer can't get any warranty coverage because American Honda says it's a Canadian, which they don't cover, and even my extended warranty company (Heritage) says they won't cover it because Honda issued a warranty update! Does ANYONE have any suggestions? I am unemployed and don't have $3000 for a new transmission.
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Miss fires by gobears75
Nov 13, 2006 (9:29 pm)
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My 1999 Ody with 118,000 miles is giving me fits.
The tranny is acting up and missfiring - Dealer replaces the tranny (we pay 25%), the car runs good.
 
8 weeks later it is missfiring again - Dealer says cat convert, valve job, and finds other problems, we don't do the cat converter, or valve job, runs good leaving shop
 
4 weeks later, missfiring again, take it to my local shop, bunch of codes, but they can not figure out what the problem is, they don't believe the cat converter is causing my problem
All they do is clear codes, car runs good leaving shop
 
I borrow a friends code reader, I drive the car (usually my daugher drives it) after awhile I detect slight missfiring, over several reading and resets, P0300, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 420, 1399. Can not find any info on P1399. At first the reset would help for awhile 50 to 100 miles. Now it only turns off the check engine light, soon the symptons come back. Oh yes, the TCS light comes on some times. Turning the engine off a stop light and turning back on will turn off the TCS light.
 
Anyone have any ideas. Anyone think the EGR has anything to do with this.

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