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#2370 of 2416 Re: Rebuilt transmission for 2001 Honda Odyssey slipping [akabanrosh]
Feb 23, 2013 (4:51 am)
Take it to an independent, local (i.e. NOT a chain) shop for another assessment. I prefer finding one that only does transmission work. A dealer will ALWAYS recommend replacing the unit. That's the only way they can offer a warranty.
Slipping is caused by worn clutches. Broken gear teeth are extremely unusual because all the gears are always engaged regardless of what 'gear' the car is in. Yes, I know the first gen 5-speed units had issues with the second gear overheating, but that's been fixed.
The issue with these trans axles is heat management. The van is really heavy, and the fluid needs more cooling than the factory cooler can provide. Get a Hayden brand (or similar) cooler installed, along with a Mangefine external filter. Service the transmission annually. These are solutions to the problem. My 1999 Odyssey with nearly 220,000 miles verifies that. I know several other people with Odysseys that are near 200,000 miles as well.
These vans do require more maintenance than the manual states, but a few easy changes will help your van live a longer, healthier, less expensive life.
#2371 of 2416 Re: Rebuilt transmission for 2001 Honda Odyssey slipping [pgnagel]
Feb 23, 2013 (9:16 am)
and if it is slipping like mf, does it help to add the extra cooling system or you have to fix the trans worn clutches first ??
#2372 of 2416 Compressor problem 2011 Odyssey
Mar 22, 2013 (5:12 pm)
I was wondering if anyone else had a problem with their Honda Odyssey AC. I have a 2011 Odyssey and Honda is saying the AC is not working because the compressor is damaged. They THINK that the compressor could have been damaged by a rock during normal use. The car is under warranty but the delearship is saying an exclusion for the warranty is road debris. The warranty says road hazard. Anyway, I am not happy that a 2 year old car is having such an expensive problem. Any thoughts???
#2373 of 2416 Re: Compressor problem 2011 Odyssey [nothappy39]
Mar 22, 2013 (7:14 pm)
At 299,268 kms I replaced A/C lines & compressor on my 2002. the dealer used used parts as the used warranty was better than a new part warranty and good for 5 years. The lines themselves wore out probably because of the winter road salt.
I would be very bitter if I had your problem at only a 2011. I would write a letter to the President of American Honda and skip service depts.
I did this with another item got excellent results from Canadian Honda.
#2374 of 2416 Re: do not yreman your oddy trans, just fix it urslf like i did [vger]
Mar 22, 2013 (11:04 pm)
after changing atf in my odessye, 5000 miles ago, and installed in line filter, the fluide is so fitlthy now. today, I just pumped out all the fluid and refilled again with honda af, i cleaned those screens in linear n shift selonoid at least 3 times.
about 400 miles ago, gas millege sudnly dropped to almost half.
what are the signs for bad torque converter? could be the converter is going?
whats involved in fixing the thrust bearing in tc?
#2375 of 2416 Odyssey EX 2001 - Transmission Failure
Mar 26, 2013 (5:22 pm)
2001 Odyssey EX, 2nd owner
This is the 2nd transmission and it broke apart (as per mechanic) at present miles: 156,500
1st transmission changed at 89000 miles.
What happened: This morning I was driving to office and after driving 50 miles, the cruise control wasnt able to generate any power and I could feel the gear slip. Then I turned off cruise and tried to hit the gas pedal. And then I felt burning smell, within couple of seconds I pulled over. I got the van towed to the mechanic. There was oil leak below the van as seen on the towing truck.
The mechanic (goodyear service center) is saying it will cost 3900(with 100k mile, 5 yr warranty) for a fully rebuilt tranny or 2700 for a used tranny (1 yr 12k mile warranty).
Please recommend what are the options I have. I am looking to get rid of this van. Should I go ahead and get it repaired and then resell or should I try to trade in with dealer for a new car? What can I expect as is (there are no other major issues with the van)?
#2376 of 2416 Re: Odyssey EX 2001 - Transmission Failure [cb10101]
Mar 26, 2013 (5:53 pm)
best response I've seen so far!
I live in a size-able city wherein there are 2 well known transmission shops that are held in high esteem as they have established an outstanding reputation over the past 30+ years.
I had a good talk with one of the top 30 year veterans from one of these shops after having a transmission failure in my 03 Honda Odyssey. Here is what he told me.
" Pursue the lawsuit if you must, but to get your tranny fixed properly, do not go to the dealership for the rebuild. Here's why: Honda is doing a repair not a rebuild. This means that if third gear has gone out, they will repair that one gear, throw it back together and call it a rebuild. No wonder people are having to take their tranny's back two and three times.
Honda is using a very different clutch plate. It has a soft material that wears off quickly and gets slippery smooth. There is nothing else like it and yet the after market clutch plates are hard like they should be."
He further told me that he had rebuilt hundreds of these with no failures or returns. So the key here is to NOT use factory clutch discs/plates, but quality after market discs. He also mentioned that the spline going down through the center of the tranny has a bushing in it that must hold air. He said most of the time Honda and others will not fix this. He spreads that bushing out till it holds air and he said that will last forever. If this leaks air, it can cause pressure problems in the tranny which results in shifting problems and possible slippage and failure. I asked if this was just a cheap under rated tranny for this vehicle prone to failure and that after having it fixed if he thought I should sell the van and move on to something different / better? He said NO! Honda makes a great vehicle and the motors in these vans is of the best in the industry. Once the tranny is fixed right, it will be worth keeping till you run it in the ground.
I hope this helps and that you have good success in your future rebuilds.
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#2377 of 2416 Re: Odyssey EX 2001 - Transmission Failure [surfsalterpath]
Mar 26, 2013 (7:38 pm)
Thanks for sharing this. I already read this. But, I am looking recommendation specific to my question. Any help is greatly appreciated.
#2378 of 2416 Re: Odyssey EX 2001 - Transmission Failure [cb10101]
Mar 27, 2013 (5:16 am)
I would expect your trade-in value to be between $1-2K at most based on you not being able to even drive it.
With the transmission repaired/replaced your van is worth about $2500 or so.
So it comes down to whether or not you can afford a new car payment or not. $4K repair for a vehicle that is worth about half that and has over 150K miles seems kinda steep. Maybe you can try some other shops?
#2379 of 2416 Re: Odyssey EX 2001 - Transmission Failure [dc_driver]
Mar 27, 2013 (5:37 am)
My 2002 has just over 321,000 kms (199,400 mi) on it. If I needed a new transmission I would just trade it, because a new transmission would cost about $4000 to $5000 and there could be alot more repairs in the future and not be covered under a new car warranty ( or 2-3 year old one by the dealer).