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#2326 of 2416 Re: HONDA BROKE MY HEART. DON'T EVERY BUY A HONDA!! [makehondapay]
Nov 29, 2012 (7:41 am)
Like Tom from Minnesota (whose posting is below) I, too, am furious at Honda. Also, like Tom, I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey, and have never towed anything at all in my life! And, living in Madison WI, I have a similarly flat topography to Tom’s Minnesota.
In late 2008 a dashboard light went on indicating a problem. To make a long story short, my dealer (with whom I have been pretty satisfied in general) told me that there was a transmission recall going on, and that Honda would replace my transmission free.
I was ecstatic to be saving almost $5,000 but also annoyed that I had almost missed the cutoff date for the free exchange because my dealer had told me that the light was probably just indicating that I had not put on my gas cap correctly. “Wait a month or so and let us know if the light goes back off,” I was told.
Well, my original transmission was as 82,672 miles when they changed it our for the “new” one. Apparently even though the transmission was still working at 82,672 miles it was still thought to be likely defective. After the “new” one was put in, it lasted exactly 52,681 miles, 30,000 less than the defective one! Hmm, gives one pause to think: why take one out that is still good at 82,672 miles and replace it with one that’s worse!
This just happened last week, and I am currently awaiting a response from my dealer, who said he would talk to their Honda rep and get back to me. I am guessing that they will tell me “Too bad” in which case I plan to speak to a lawyer friend of mine to see if anything can be done. I cannot afford $4,500 for a repair, let alone a repair that is necessary only because Honda has not gotten its act together regarding these incessantly recurring transmission problems!
I will keep you all informed of what transpires. And I will be calling Tom later, who was kind enough to put his phone number on his posting. Mine is 608-332-6287, if anyone wants to get in touch with me.
#2327 of 2416 Re: HONDA BROKE MY HEART. DON'T EVERY BUY A HONDA!! [makehondapay]
Nov 29, 2012 (7:49 am)
My outcome was similar but not the same as yours, it turns out. I also am going to be paying not $4,800 but rather half of that only. However, in my case I had my dealer talk to their Honda rep for me, and the Honda rep (or whomever he represents) will be paying the other half.
One thing that my dealer pointed out to me was that, since I the replacement transmission I got at 86,000 + mileage was free for both parts and labor, and since I'm now at 135,000 mileas +, having to fork out $2400 doesn't seem so bad. Part of his meaning is that if I sell the car one day, I can legitimately mention the the transmission is relatively new, and that is, apparently, the most expensive replacement one would ever have to do on an Odyssey.
If you want to chat about the issue, feel free to call me at 608-332-6287. Here's wishing you a good holiday season.
#2328 of 2416 Re: HONDA BROKE MY HEART. DON'T EVERY BUY A HONDA!! [pjjazztemple2]
Nov 29, 2012 (8:31 am)
hi peter, tom,
was there an official honda transmission recall ? for what years? and does it cover anything over 100k miles?
also, was your cars at time of first bad tranmission dirvable or just irratical in changing gears
i have 2000, bought it with 120k , started the trans problms at 130, was still drivable, but getting worse. but after many research, i cleaned the linear and shift selonoids and car drove much better and drove more on it until now at 155k almost. did any of your dealers indicated anything about selonoids?
the funny thing that an odyssey with good trans of these years worse at best 3000 dollars, and to spend 4000 on tranmission is really a scandal .. no more hondas here
#2329 of 2416 Re: new trans [stickguy]
Nov 30, 2012 (3:17 am)
i am sorry....it was not new. It was rebuilt with a new torque converter for 2700 with a one yr warranty. I was at almost 199,000 miles on my 2002 when this happened. I feel horrible for everyone and am perplexed when mine went so long without replacement...mine was not completely gone, but i was nervous with winter that it was going to go out at any time. The shop is an independent trans shop in Johnstown Ohio...Hardshift's. I will check into the filter and cooler. thanks for the tips.
#2330 of 2416 How long should a Honda transmisison last?
Nov 30, 2012 (9:44 am)
On my 2002 Odyssey the transmission went at 184,000 kms. I currently have 316,000 kms and I have had a non-Honda cooler for about 2 years.
How long should these transmissions last if there were no issues whatsoever?
Do the minivans of Toyota, Chrysler, Nissan (2012 now built only in Japan), GM, Ford (Ford usually broke at 102,000 kms) expect to last a lifetime (what mileage is a lifetime?). If not a lifetime then how long?
There are some owners that have had no issues but how many miles/kilometes did they trade it in?
#2331 of 2416 Re: How long should a Honda transmisison last? [autowrite]
Dec 01, 2012 (8:16 am)
your questions need consumer roport to beable to answer.. , but if you find out, lets know
#2332 of 2416 Re: How long should a Honda transmisison last? [autowrite]
Dec 01, 2012 (10:17 am)
You now have about 80,000 miles on your re-built. I assume it's now well out of your re-builders warranty, so you are now driving on borrowed time......
If I were you I would be getting rid of it NOW while it's still working. Another re-build would cost as much (or more) than the van's worth as a trade in.
(I hear good things about the new Chrysler a/t's in the newer Caravans and Town and Country.) It's only taken them 25 years to figure it out..hopefully.
I still have my old 1992 Dodge Mini Van ( worst a/t's ever built) that we use with the back seats out for nasty hauling and bad winter weather. It's AWD 3.3 V-6 ES with a set of 4 winter tires. Would like to retire it but it just keeps on starting and going when everything else is stuck in the yard or dead in the ditch.
Our 2003 Honda Odyssey EX-L (bought new) sulks in the garage as I'm afraid to trust it to go anywhere, that van has no soul, never has.
#2333 of 2416 Re: How long should a Honda transmisison last? [autowrite]
Dec 01, 2012 (4:57 pm)
They SHOULD last about 250,000 miles with nothing more than routine maintenance. But they don't.
#2334 of 2416 Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey transmission problem Prpoper Fix [rfreitas]
Dec 04, 2012 (1:10 pm)
I live in a size-able city wherein there are 2 well known transmission shops that are held in high esteem as they have established an outstanding reputation over the past 30+ years.
I had a good talk with one of the top 30 year veterans from one of these shops after having a transmission failure in my 03 Honda Odyssey. Here is what he told me.
" Pursue the lawsuit if you must, but to get your tranny fixed properly, do not go to the dealership for the rebuild. Here's why: Honda is doing a repair not a rebuild. This means that if third gear has gone out, they will repair that one gear, throw it back together and call it a rebuild. No wonder people are having to take their tranny's back two and three times.
Honda is using a very different clutch plate. It has a soft material that wears off quickly and gets slippery smooth. There is nothing else like it and yet the after market clutch plates are hard like they should be."
He further told me that he had rebuilt hundreds of these with no failures or returns. So the key here is to NOT use factory clutch discs/plates, but quality after market discs. He also mentioned that the spline going down through the center of the tranny has a bushing in it that must hold air. He said most of the time Honda and others will not fix this. He spreads that bushing out till it holds air and he said that will last forever. If this leaks air, it can cause pressure problems in the tranny which results in shifting problems and possible slippage and failure. I asked if this was just a cheap under rated tranny for this vehicle prone to failure and that after having it fixed if he thought I should sell the van and move on to something different / better? He said NO! Honda makes a great vehicle and the motors in these vans is of the best in the industry. Once the tranny is fixed right, it will be worth keeping till you run it in the ground.
I hope this helps and that you have good success in your future rebuilds.
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#2335 of 2416 Re: 2003 Honda Odyssey transmission problem Prpoper Fix [foxfire1]
Dec 04, 2012 (2:05 pm)
Interesting... You should post that information on this Ody Trans website too:
I think they would find that info useful...