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#2160 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems [01intrigue]
Feb 13, 2012 (9:20 am)
>most domestic 2001 vehicles would have been in the junk yard after two transmissions.
It's broad stretches like this statement that lured many people into buying Hondas despite their long record back into the 90s of transmission failures.
I have had many cars to 150,000 and now to 190,000 on a 1998 Buick with NO transmission failures. They were all GMs. And if I had failure at 60-, 70-, 80K, and even earlier, I would have been upset just like these owners have been who post here.
Many relied on past reputation perpetuated. The best source is an old timer mechanic in his own shop that you patronize. Stop and ask him about various cars and brands you are thinking about buying, new or used. Better yet, take the potential purchase of a used car to him for an inspection. Money well spent. And if a trans on a used car does go out, he will direct you to the best replacement in terms of actually fixing the problem instead of putting in another bad transmission. Won't be a $6000 replacement.
Best thing the unhappy owners can do is spread the word among their friends about the longevity of the transmission problems.-- how the company did not redeign the problem trans and how the replacements were the same problematic units and the company put the same problematic trans in for years.
#2163 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems [rfreitas]
Feb 13, 2012 (10:38 am)
I have had a few infromative e-mails back and forth with Larry, and he does have a good take on the Ody a/t problems.
Honda certainly knows what the weak spots are in their units too, but as he says, the fixes are patented and to change out all the parts would be opening up the company to a billion dollars worth of lawsuits.
If Honda admitted to the issues and started bringing back the 100's of thousands of the Odys that went out the door with a/t's doomed to fail they would have to take a couple of years off to catch up.
I also think that the Honda Z1 a/t fluid they used was crap, and the company has now quietly changed over to a synthetic without much fan fare. This is after the dealerships claiming that the world would end 10 seconds after using anything else. HOnda doesn't even sell the Z1 anymore.
I bought a new 2003 Ody and paid $34,000 for it thinking, like everyone else, it was a bullet proof unit. Wish I had of Googled, "HOnda Odyssey transmisson Problems" back then.
I now change the a/t fluid using a synthetic every second motor oil change, have added a Magnefine inline filter to catch the clutch pack debris and liquid metal, don't drive it like a sports car, had the pathetic oil squirter recall installed, and know that in spite of all this it will still fail, soon.
If I am lucky enough to be in Utah when it does , I will get Larry to do his re-build using all the new patented aftermarket parts to replace the Honda crap. The engine will outlast the rest of the Van, but that doesn't help when it's hooked to a boat anchor transmission.
#2164 of 2416 Re: 2004 Odyssey Transmission shuddering [autowrite]
Feb 13, 2012 (6:01 pm)
It was rebuilt by A&B Tire in NE Ohio---not a franchise or part of a chain.
#2165 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems [imidazol97]
Feb 13, 2012 (7:20 pm)
First of all, no one makes better transmissions than GM; I consider them the standard, so I agree with your Buick example. I've been watching the posts here, as a 2006 Ody owner. My point is that nearly all the problems with Ody transmissions are with those thru 2004, until they redesigned the Ody in 2005 model year. So telling everyone to avoid ALL Odys is not a responsible message to convey. The Ody weighs in at over 4500 lbs empty, and perhaps those 1999-2004 Odys did not have a tranny to adequately handle the 4500 lbs plus the 1000 lbs. in people and the 200 lbs. of stuff that folks pack into and on top of their Ody (hey, I'm guilty of this too on our 2006.) If someone has gotten 200K miles without having to pay for any tranny replacements, I'd say they got a decent deal, and looking at the lack of complaints on 2005-2010 models, I'd reco buying one of those to replace it.
#2166 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems [01intrigue]
Feb 18, 2012 (9:30 am)
ODY model years 2004-2009 has a class action lawsuit for the tranny as well. This is an ongoing issue and not just the early model years. In addition, the ODY is not recommended by Consumer reports and Motor Trend tested the van and said the following, "February 2012 Motor Trend Long Test Article 2011 Odyssey Touring Elite, 6 months old, 14999 miles "...we'll have the technicians look at the transmission as well. Over time, shifting has become rough, and occasionally upon acceleration between first and second gears, the transmission seems to be shuddering."
#2167 of 2416 2000 honda odyssey lx
Feb 18, 2012 (1:26 pm)
my odyssey 212300 miles and still going like new
#2168 of 2416 Re: 2000 honda odyssey lx [tonny239]
Feb 18, 2012 (2:15 pm)
you certainly got your money's worth.
points out an important fact. Not every unit is going to fail early. Maintenance and usage also play a part in longevity.
I have a 2005 that just turned over 70K. We are considering replacing it next December (2012) when it should have ~ 78K on it, and a big part of the decision to do it then or keep it a couple more years (up to 100K or so) is whether I trust the tranny.
Now, a class action settlement where they extend the warranty on the trans to 10/100 or so would help sway the decision! Though my wife is also ready to move into something smaller, if I can get away without paying for it, all the better.
#2169 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems [donethat_1]
Feb 19, 2012 (2:15 pm)
Consumer Reports did not say "not recommended" for the Odyssey. They just did not mention any words, one way or the other.