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#2070 of 2416 Re: 2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) [hondalover10]
Dec 03, 2011 (8:53 am)
i am a transmission builder in south o.c. i work on hundreds of honda transmissions, this is nothing new as far as the problems you were having. I agree partly with honda being one of the premier manufacturers but saying this, there are a couple of designs that deserve no praise.The biggest flaw being that the filter is not serviceable. the trans filter is internal and the trans has to be removed and completely disassembled to replace it. by the time the filter is plugged, there are mechanical failures withing the transmission.The second issue i have, is that second gear oiler that is the major upgrade in your transmission. It is basically a band-aid repair, not a redesign of the transmission.Even with this oiler assembly, they still fail. although it may prolong the inevitable, it is just a after thought. The transmissions behind the v-6 have more failures basically due to the extra torque provided by the engine. the trans is really undersized for the job. You can expect between 80k and 125k before the trans will have issues again. ive seen them reach 150k miles but 125k miles is the average. It also depends on how the vehicle is driven.
#2071 of 2416 It also depends on how the vehicle is driven
Dec 03, 2011 (9:35 am)
How should transmission be driven? I had to replace my 2002 at 184,000 kms in 2007. Last year I added an after-market cooler and switch over to synthetic trans oil. I currently have 289,000 kms. That's 105m kms or 64m miles.
In your shop do your also come across Siennas and Chryslers with replacement issues?
#2072 of 2416 Re: 2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) [planetarytras]
Dec 03, 2011 (10:44 am)
Are you saying till 2007 the filter position has not been changed. You indicated that they fail between 80k to 125k miles. Has that improved with the 2007 and above models? I have a 2005 Odyssey with only 21k miles on it, and hope it will service me for years to come. My daughter's 2002 had to have a transmission replace by 100,700 miles, and Honda wouldn't do anything about it. Yes it is out of warranty, but if it is a known defect, I feel Honda should at least meet us part way.
#2073 of 2416 Mad Grandma
Dec 04, 2011 (6:54 am)
Four months ago I bought a 2002 Honda Odyssey, it had 112,000 miles on it and had been regularly maintained by a dealership other than the one I had purchased it from. However, the dealership that sold the car off the showroom floor and where it was regularly maintained was just down the street. So, after my purchase, I took it where it had been serviced. I told the service mgr. that I wanted a bumper to bumper inspection. (This was for my daughter who has a handicap 3yr. old and I wanted the van to be road worthy.) The timing belt needed changing, the brakes were worn, the oil changed....Three months later, she's on the freeway in SC and the transmission starts to thud....I told her to take it to the Honda dealership and find out what the problem could be. The transmission needs to be replaced (she's only put 5K on it since she's had it) for a tune of $5800. I feel like two Honda dealerships have mislead me. I'm afraid if I replace the transmission it might only last for a few months...any suggestions?
#2074 of 2416 Re: Mad Grandma [matma]
Dec 04, 2011 (7:39 am)
hindsight is easy, but always get the PPI (pre-purchase inspection) before you buy.
In this case, if it was driving fine when you bought it and for 5K after, I don't see it as the fault of either dealer. basically, there was nothing to find. And at that mileage, on a unit known for failures, you were playing with fire from the start.
I would, however, plead your case to Honda corporate to see if they will help out, and try to get one of both of the dealers on your side (especially the one that did all the maintenance). Hopefully you can at least get some relief from them.
Other than that, it should be fine for a while, and will have a warranty.
#2075 of 2416 Re: Mad Grandma [matma]
Dec 04, 2011 (7:47 am)
I understand how you feel, as I gave my 2002 Odyssey with only 14k miles on it to my daughter who has 4 children. It has been serviced by the book at the Honda dealer, and at 100,700 miles the transmission failed. The cost $4,300 to put in a rebuilt with a 36 month, 36,000 mile warranty. We replaced it, but in all the blogs I was afraid that there is a problem with this transmission and so we traded it in last month for a Sienna, as Honda refused to help out with the repair, even though they know that this is a problem.
#2076 of 2416 Re: Mad Grandma [matma]
Dec 04, 2011 (8:40 am)
I am afraid that the replacement transmission is no better then the one that came with the car originally. It sounds to me like the dealer misled you. My suggestion would be to trade the car in now before things gets worse. I would also suspect that the motor mounts are broke as well and they did not tell you.
#2077 of 2416 Another one bites the dust...
Dec 04, 2011 (5:12 pm)
2001--only 65000 miles. Driving down a city street early October when I notice the TCS light and D3 indicator light flshing and the check engine light on. Could no longer accelerate, van would move only very very slowly. Had it towed to local Honda dealer.
They diagnosed it as a tranny failure, replacement would cost $5300. Did the dance with service rep, etc. Got American Honda involved, had to ask, offered replacement for $4320. Told them no thanks, will never buy a Honda again (unless they own this) and will discourage anyone else from doing so. They were actually going to charge me $80 for giving me the diagnosis that I now owned an $8200 paper weight! When I objected, they relented. About the only good thing I can say about the service reps effort and keeping me as a happy Honda consumer.
Took it to an approved Jasper Transmission installer and had them put in the recommended Jasper replacement (why in the world would I want the same product from Honda again?) Total bill just under $4K. We obviously don't drive our van much, but so far it is running perfectly. Jasper comes with 3yr/100,000mi warranty. I just discovered tonight that there is now a class-action lawsuit filed. Unfortunately it seems to cover only 2005/06 modely years. You can bet I will be contacting them to see if the suit can be expanded to additional years. There is also an Occupy Honda facebook page!
It is simply reprehensible that Honda is acting this way and they ought to be held accountable.
#2078 of 2416 Re: Mad Grandma [stickguy]
Dec 05, 2011 (6:39 pm)
From what I've read on the blogs here is that i should check out the Jasper transmissions.....shoot at this point who cares if it comes from Honda? In fact, I don't think I'd want another Honda transmission in the van. The dealership that I purchased it from won't even return my calls.....the dealership where it was bought new and serviced, did offer me the labor free....but the van lives in South Carolina and I'm up north, so it doesn't help me any...
#2079 of 2416 Re: Mad Grandma [matma]
Dec 05, 2011 (7:36 pm)
Lots of talk about Jasper transmissions BUT what transmission dealer/shop sells & installs it in Canada?