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Honda Odyssey, Van
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#2062 of 2416 Re: 2011 Odyssey Drivetrain issues [thebigmig]
Nov 23, 2011 (12:59 pm)
Keep on Honda about fixing it. Leave it with them for a few days, and insist on a loaner, for them to drive it, have the techs drive it an insist that they investigate and repeat the issue. Also tell them that you are not picking the car up until the fix it. that will force them to contact Honda Tech Line and provide updates to you. Eventually they will tell you to come get your car even if its not fixed. Our car was in the shop for 3 weeks within a 6 week period. Long story short, we kept excellent records, submitted them to a lawyer and we have filed with Honda under the Lemon Law. Research it, lemon laws are there to protect the consumer of situations such as these where the investigations for defects in new cars can go on for months and years and menwhile you are driving and paying for the car with a defect!
Let me know if you want ore info.
#2064 of 2416 Rough in Drive at idle
Dec 01, 2011 (10:56 am)
I just bought a 2002 Odyssey with about 240,000 on it. Regularly maintained?? The plugs were in rough shape, oil was filthy but full. Anyways, I did all the usual things I do when I buy a new old car to begin fixing, fresh oil with cleaning agents and Lucas oil additive, new iridium plugs, fixed the hole in the exhaust system, etc. We had a bad rain the other night and right after that when the van is in Drive and I am stopped there is a shutter in the whole van. Not just the steering wheel, but the whole van. When I shift to neutral it goes away. The motor sounds and runs great. Occasionally when the tranny is cold it will miss shifting down to first and not engage if the throttle is depressed to quickly. You just have to let up and wait, then you would feel and hear it engage and you can drive as normal. The rough tranny in idle just started while the cold shift issue was present when I bought it. It gets smooth as you accelerate and stays smooth at speed. I added a bottle of lucas tranny fix last night, I will see what that does. Anyone who fixes their own car have experience with a similar issue? I can get a whole new/used (condition unknown) tranny from a scrap yard for $85 with a $25 core. Not sure if it would be worth the risk given the transmission issues described here. Anyone know if the bolt pattern for the newer tranny will fit my block? Any help would be greatly welcomed.
#2065 of 2416 FED UP WITH THE DEFECT
Dec 01, 2011 (10:57 am)
BOYCOTT HONDA!! THE ONLY WAY TO GET THEIR ATTENTION IS TO HIT THEM IN THEIR POCKETS!!! HONDA MISLED THE PUBLIC BY SELLING DEFECTIVE TRANSMISSIONS TO THEIR CUSTOMERS AND NOW THEY WANT US TO PAY FOR THEIR F-CK UP? I DO NOT THINK SO! I HAVE CREATED OCCUPY HONDA SO WE CAN BLAST THEM ON FACEBOOK AND WE NEED TO START TO PROTEST IN FRONT OF HONDA DEALERS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE A FRAUD COMPANY AND WE WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE THEM. I HAVE HAD TO CHANGE MY TRANSMISSION 5 TIMES AND NOW RICK CASE HONDA IN DAVIE FLORIDA WANTS ME TO PAY 1800.00 FOR THEIR DEFECT. MY SERVICE RECORD IS IMPECCABLE AND THIS IS NO FAULT OF MINE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I WILL NOT PUT OUT ANOTHER DOLLAR THEY NEED TO GIVE ME A TRANSMISSION THAT I SHOULD HAVE HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE. GO TO OCCUPY HONDA ON FACEBOOK.
#2066 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey 2003 Transmission [sbayub]
Dec 01, 2011 (5:40 pm)
The problem is if you're looking for great reliability in a minivan you won't find it. Even Toyota has issues with the Sienna (esp. the AWD model). The only thing that you can do is minimize the risk. For example, avoid the power sliding doors for all makes and models because nobody has got it right. Check the forums. All of them have issues, either with the doors closing on hands or opening up while driving or some other issue. Honda may be slightly worse than Toyota, reliability wise, but who else makes minivans besides Toyota, Honda and Chrysler? Good luck with your vehicle.
#2067 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey 2003 Transmission [jpf]
Dec 02, 2011 (10:39 am)
" Honda may be slightly worse than Toyota, reliability wise, but who else makes minivans besides Toyota, Honda and Chrysler? "
I think if this guy is on his 5th transmission he has every right go Postal on Honda.
I think a lot of the problem is Consumers Reports has looked at Honda with Rose Colored glasses for years and over looked the obvious transmission issues. They still have the 2001 02 and 03 automatic transmissions rated as "Excellant" Buyers expectations for their "recomended" vehicles are that they earned that rating and didn't get it because of politics or worse.
If CR blasted Honda for the 2000 to 2003 (and more) years, people wouldn't be so shocked when their Ody dies in the ditch.
I change 3 1/2 liters of a/t fluid my Ody 2003 a/t fluid every second oil change and run an extra magnifine filter on the return line for the a/t, but who knows when my luck will run out, when it does I won't be shocked.
As for the alternatives, yes they all have their issues too, I think a Honda Ridgeline will be the vehicle to replace my Ody.
I hear some intenet chatter that 2012 might be the last year for the Ridgeline.
#2068 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey 2003 Transmission [longo2]
Dec 02, 2011 (10:53 am)
FYI, the ridgeline, pilot, and odyssey all share the same engine & transmission setup. I would avoid all V6 Honda products until they figure this thing out.
We had a '10 pilot with engine pinging problems also. Traded it for a 4cyl CRV they are supposed up be reliable.
My neighbor has '05 Toyota sienna with 110k never had one problem with it. Personally I would buy Toyota for reliability. My issue with Toyota in the past was their ho-hum driving experience. We like our cars to have sporty handing with great ergonomics & interior finishes. Honda was our first choice in the past.
#2069 of 2416 Re: Honda Odyssey 2003 Transmission [blackexv6]
Dec 03, 2011 (8:30 am)
the ridgeline and I think pilot have a different tranny. And the ody switched over to that model trans in IIRC 2007? Still seemed to have TC issues, but the fatal issues of the earlier ones don't seem to be there anymore.
#2070 of 2416 Re: 2002 Odyssey Transmission failure (73K) [hondalover10]
Dec 03, 2011 (8:53 am)
i am a transmission builder in south o.c. i work on hundreds of honda transmissions, this is nothing new as far as the problems you were having. I agree partly with honda being one of the premier manufacturers but saying this, there are a couple of designs that deserve no praise.The biggest flaw being that the filter is not serviceable. the trans filter is internal and the trans has to be removed and completely disassembled to replace it. by the time the filter is plugged, there are mechanical failures withing the transmission.The second issue i have, is that second gear oiler that is the major upgrade in your transmission. It is basically a band-aid repair, not a redesign of the transmission.Even with this oiler assembly, they still fail. although it may prolong the inevitable, it is just a after thought. The transmissions behind the v-6 have more failures basically due to the extra torque provided by the engine. the trans is really undersized for the job. You can expect between 80k and 125k before the trans will have issues again. ive seen them reach 150k miles but 125k miles is the average. It also depends on how the vehicle is driven.
#2071 of 2416 It also depends on how the vehicle is driven
Dec 03, 2011 (9:35 am)
How should transmission be driven? I had to replace my 2002 at 184,000 kms in 2007. Last year I added an after-market cooler and switch over to synthetic trans oil. I currently have 289,000 kms. That's 105m kms or 64m miles.
In your shop do your also come across Siennas and Chryslers with replacement issues?