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#1972 of 2416 Another honda to the scrap yard
Aug 26, 2011 (10:36 pm)
I have a 2004 honda odyssey with 111,111 miles and we currently live overseas in England. My check engine and TCS light came on five days ago and since then it has been down hill. It has trouble getting into reverse and now it is scipping really bad in 2nd and 3rd gear. I took it to the UK honda and since it is US spec and has to ship the transmission from the states it will cost 7500 pounds and with the exchange rate it would be about 12000 dollars. We do not have many choices as they are not many shops that will work on american spec cars. We loved the van up until this all staredWe have to make the choice to get rid of the car as it is not worth that much. We are really in a bind as we are a family of six and this is our only transportation. I think we will go with a Toyota the next time.
#1974 of 2416 Re: Another honda to the scrap yard [edfamilyhonda]
Aug 27, 2011 (5:14 am)
get rid of the car now why there is still some value. I went to trade mine in and the first thing they asked mme was "have you had work done to the transmission." It is a well known issue that Honda is wlaking away from unfortunately. Like you, I bought something other than a Honda. I will no longer buy any of their products.
#1977 of 2416 Re: Trans on my '04 just died [pelleetman]
Aug 29, 2011 (6:34 am)
Here's what my friend Larry who runs an a/t rebuild shop has to add to your post...
"Sonnax patented the valve, but if Honda is smart, there's more than one way to skin a cat. The TransGo kit does the same thing, but has no provision to avoid converter drainback after sitting overnight. Honda, and any carmaker for that matter, only concerns themselves with things that affect them during the warranty period. It takes a group effort (sometimes a class action suit) of dissatisfied owners for a carmaker to take notice. Clogged screens, clogged filter, and etc. are caused by too much debris in the transmission fluid. Honda did R&D and said the microfinish of the steel plates was too rough and wearing down the clutches. Their fix was mirror-smooth steel plates. Raybestos, agreed, but came up with a different fix: Harder and more durable clutch lining. Either/or... the bottom line is that clutch wear creates debris. It creates the majority of the debris that clogs up filters and screens. Having an inline filter is one of the best investments a Honda owner can do because it filters much finer than the factory filter. The factory filter isn't a filter at all. That's a misnomer. It's a pump suction intake screen. It's 60 microns which is big; the size of the human hair. A true filter, filters down to a size where you can't can't see what gets through.
Until the MaxiFlush, 15 microns was the best available with the Magnafine, which is 4 times finer than the factory. You can't filter any finer that 15 microns with a full flow filter without restricting flow. It's a combination of not only filtering the ATF much finer than the factory, but also generating less debris in the first place. Fixing what generates debris is part of what fixing the converter fluid flow is all about. The converter generates a lot of debris by the clutch dragging when it's supposed to be off. It also loses flow when hot and melts the aluminum washer in the converter, generating even more debris.
It's quite a complicated fix making a Honda trans long lasting. There's no one "silver bullet" that solves all problems; I wish there was.
Lastly, here's what I have to say about Hondas: What use is a long lasting vehicle if the transmission isn't?"
J. Larry Bloodworth
#1978 of 2416 honda odyssey transmission
Aug 27, 2011 (11:08 am)
#1979 of 2416 honda odyssey transmission
Aug 27, 2011 (11:08 am)
We have a 2002 Honda Odyssey, check engine light came on, took it to Braman Honda service center in Palm Beach, Florida . We were told at 59872 miles van nedded a new transmission and computer which would cost about $5000. They tried to sell us a new car. We took the van a AAMCO transmissions service center and get the transmission fixed for $2700. We are so dissapointed with Honda's performance, what an unreliable van...
#1980 of 2416 Oddysey Transmission Bandage
Aug 29, 2011 (4:28 pm)
I work for a small Car dealership in Boise, ID. We have had a few of these Odyssey transmissions come up. One bandage that has worked so far for us is to use Trans Tune by Sea Foam. If you put that stuff in your transmission (duct tape and a long tube funnel) and drive for a while it will clean out a lot of the crap in the Tranny. Then after about a week do a transmission drain and fill and use Lucas brand transmission fluid (one bottle) with your transmission fill up. It worked on 2 Odysseys with this problem. One of the owners' wife drove one of these odysseys for at least a year with no problem. It isn't a permanent fix but it definitely works pretty good. I would imagine that doing this process and doing a regular transmission drain and fill will allow it to last quite a while without having to donate a kidney to get your van moving.
#1981 of 2416 2002 Odyssey---New Owner
Sep 01, 2011 (3:07 am)
I recently purchased a used 2002 Odyssey with 75k on it. It works very well and was meticulously maintained by original owner. I did not know about the history of tranny problems until after I made the purchase. In reading the posts here, I see many different recommendations for best practices in taking care of the tranny. I have three questions:
1. What should I do now to best increase my chances of longevity with this transmission? I've read several things, and maybe missed some...(after-market cooler, in-line filter, DW1 fluid, Sonnax pressure reg. valve) All of this, some, more??
2. Should I flush or drain the tranny? I get both answers when I research issue.
3. How often should I flush or drain?
I should add that this van was part of the recall in 2004 and I have paperwork that shows it had a jet kit of some kind installed in the transmission at 18,000 miles. ) This receipt was buried in a stack of oil-change receipts the seller gave me...I missed it when I was buying the vehicle)
We just had a Grand Caravan transmission die on us (on our 11th anniversary "date" no less!) and thought we were getting an upgrade in quality. Other than a fear of future problems with transmission, we love this van so far.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance.