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#1915 of 2416 Another one...
Jun 29, 2011 (8:52 pm)
We have a 2003 Ody with 77k miles on it. I changed the fluid for the first time at around 65k (3x drain/fill with Honda fluid).
A few weeks ago we got the dreaded engine light. The mechanic pulled a P0730 code and told us if it happened again, to replace the tranny. Since then it has been ok except for some rough shifting. Occasionally it will fail to shift into 3rd and act as if it is neutral, but if I back off the gas it will shift.
I took it to the local Honda dealer for a 2nd opinion, they also said to replace the tranny and quoted me $5,400 (said it needs a new engine computer when replacing the transmission). They local Honda rep offered to cover $1k. I called two other shops and got quotes around $4700.
In addition, it needs an ABS modulator, engine mount, and timing belt. Total bill was almost $9k. So, we're getting rid of it and have bought a new Odyssey (even after all this, I still prefer the Honda over any other van. Wish me luck!)
#1916 of 2416 Re: Another one... [ibeplato]
Jul 03, 2011 (6:06 pm)
I also had a 2003 with the transmission causing problems at about 105,000 miles. Honda told me the they would cover about $1500. I got a quote from a reputable transmission shop for about $2500 for rebuild. I asked honda to review their part of this problem to keep a customer. They elected not to. I went with the private shop and sold the car about a year later. I decided to purchase the 2011 Ody ..... the transmission problem was overcome by what the Honda van offered. I hope the new 6 speed transmission does not have the problems that the 2003 had.
#1917 of 2416 Re: Another one... [jhk4949]
Jul 03, 2011 (8:12 pm)
If you are an American what did this new Odyssey cost. I live in Canada and with the tax for a 6 speed it's over $60,000.
Jul 04, 2011 (7:22 am)
I purchased a 2003 Honda Odyssey in February. It had been a dream...until yesterday. Actually, about a week ago, I noticed some rough shifting into second when I was getting on the highway. It only happened once or twice, so I didn't think much of it, but I looked onlime and found a recall on the 2003 tranny cooler line. The recall states that if you have more than 15,000 on your vehicle, they will inspect the gears for discoloration, and i,f it exists they will replace your transmission. I contacted a local dealer about this, but never got a return call. Fast forward to yesterday-75 miles from home, in no man's land with no cell service and at least 5 miles from the nearest phone-my transmission completely blew out. I mean-COMPLETELY, as in, I had tranny fluid on my back window. The gears stripped, and van just rolled to a stop. It was smoking so bad I thought it was on fire. Thankfully, a nice family stopped and let us use their phone and AAA and they towed it back to a dealership near our home, and I fully expect Honda to fix THEIR problem. Am I asking too much?
#1919 of 2416 Re: Arg! [meem2]
Jul 04, 2011 (8:06 am)
"I fully expect Honda to fix THEIR problem. Am I asking too much? "
If you were the original owner you would have received the recall notice for the 03'. Under that recall they would have inspected the tranny for the burnt gears and replaced the unit with its first rebuilt.
If your gears and shaft were not discolored yet they would have installed a fluid diverter on the return line to the tanny case and sent you on your way.
This little do dad simply squirts the returning a/t fluid over a couple of inches and down onto the shaft and gears that are running dry and burning up.
That solved one problem, but that tranny has a host of other issues that only a total re-design would fix. As you are on this forum and reading the stories, I'm sure you know by now that the Honda Odyssey a/t's are timebombs.
Most Ody owners find out about changing the a/t fluid soon and often, installing a cooler, and adding an in-line a/t filter but by then that tranny is usually toast and Honda will say, "we understand your problem, but sorry, can't help"
If you were the original owner and had a record of tranny fluid changes, and the re-call done, it might help, but as the second or (?) owner with no history, I doubt it.
Hope I'm wrong, keep in touch.
#1920 of 2416 2000 Honda Odyssey Transmission Codes
Jul 08, 2011 (10:12 am)
My 2000 honda Transmision quit on me. Prices varied from $3900 to $6000 to repair it. It has 150,000 miles on the car. Does any one know the following codes? PO740 PO420 1456.
Book valvue is only around $2500 - $4500. Not sure if it is worth fixing.
#1921 of 2416 Re: 2000 Honda Odyssey Transmission Codes [falmar1]
Jul 08, 2011 (10:46 am)
Google is your friend:
P0740 - Torque Converter Clutch Circuit
P0420 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold
P1456 - Manufacture Control Auxiliary Emission Controls
Basically transmission, catalytic converter and other emission issues.
IMHO, it's time to take Nellie out back...
Or Craigslist it for $1000 and move on.
#1922 of 2416 Re: 2000 Honda Odyssey Transmission Codes [falmar1]
Jul 12, 2011 (5:49 pm)
I have a quote from AAMCO transmissions for 1800 to rebuild my 2001 transmission. Good luck.
#1923 of 2416 I've had 4 transmssions
Jul 13, 2011 (10:18 am)
My Honda Odyssey has 161,000 miles and I am on my 4th transmission. I'm 59 years old and have never had to replace a transmission in any other vehicle I've ever owned.
The last transmission that failed was installed by McConnell Imports in Montgomery, Alabama in September, 2009. McConnell Imports installed a transmission which had been remanufactured by Howard Engineering (Los Angeles) and which carried a 3 year warranty.
This transmission failed and was replaced by Sons Honda in McDonough GA on 2/28/11. The transmission was clearly within the 3 year warranty period. Howard Engineering sent a replacement transmission to Sons Honda and advised the Service Manager that I could recover the labor cost by applying to Howard Engineering for a reimbursement. I’ve sent 2 requests to Howard (one of them certified mail) and have never received a response.
On 5/20/11, I sent a certified letter to the General Manager at McConnell Imports asking them to intervene with Howard Engineering on my behalf. McConnell has never acknowledged my problem or responded to my letter. Since then, I’ve learned that the Better Business Bureau has given Howard Engineering an “F” rating and that they’ve had multiple complaints about failing to respond to complaints and failing to honor warranty claims.
Why would a Honda dealer use this type of supplier? Why would they also not intervene on a customer’s behalf? Given this type of service, why would anyone take their car to a Honda dealer for service?
I'm buying 2 vehicles later this year. Neither will be a Honda.
#1924 of 2416 Re: I've had 4 transmssions [steve378]
Jul 13, 2011 (6:18 pm)
"Why would a Honda dealer use this type of supplier? "
Probably because they picked the outfit that supplied the Honda re-built at the lowest possible price. And as the old saying goes "you just get what you pay for" however you got much less.
There are reputable a/t re-builders out there that do stand behind their warranty, but the HOnda trannies from those years are time bombs and there really aren't any good options other than using the same OEM parts that failed the original, and (this is the big one) unless the HOnda a/t has a much improved filtering system to take out the circulating clutch debris and metal bits that turn your fluid into grinding compound and plug up the solenoid filters....the same fate awaits your re-build.
The original "Honda Z1" fluid could also be a part of the problem and only this year has Honda quietly gone over to a more robust synthetic replacement ("DW1")
That particular tranny has given HOnda a big Black Eye on consumer reports as well, and all the other models (including Acura) that used it had the same reliability issues.
Eventually Honda a/t stories like yours will all be history, but only when they are all scrapped and melted down, my 03 Ody' included.