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#1637 of 2392 Re: Must change the transmission fluid [pgnagel]
by mawizard
Sep 16, 2010 (7:54 pm)
Hi
I have a 01 EX Odyssey with 74K miles on it. Honda Dealer performed a trans oil drain/fill 5 days ago. I noticed since then when engine is cold trans gets stuck from changing 1st to 2nd gear, after a while changes with big slip. This happens only when the engine is cold and I have to take it easy on accelerator until it changes to 2nd.
This is 2nd trans which was replaced at 42 K in 2004. Is this a sign of another trans failure ? Should I contact the dealer/AH and check if it's still under warranty ?
#1638 of 2392 Re: Must change the transmission fluid [mawizard]
by pgnagel
Sep 17, 2010 (10:35 am)
Have it serviced again. There may be some gunk floating around in the 1-2 shift solenoid. Servicing the tranny only replaces 3 quarts of fluid, while the transmission might hold up to three times that amount.
#1639 of 2392 Re: '01 w/ torque converter lockup issues [pgnagel]
by cy123
Sep 17, 2010 (11:46 am)
Thanks pgnagel for your message, that's good info, and can't wait for your updates on your rebuilding. Hope all goes well.
I'm not mechanic (just made my transmission fluid change but that's it) so I'm thinking to get cooler and in-line filter installation done by some shop. But I'd like to understand better before asking the shop to do it. Two specific questions:
1. Does the new cooler replace the existing one or it's new add-on? I saw several types of Hayden transmission cooler on their website, I kind of confused what kind I should choose. Are they all fit or just specific one? Which part number are you using?
2. I imagine the in-line filter placed outside the tranny, do you use any existing hose run through it, or how it goes? (I guess it can be put on hose connected to the cooler, am I right?)
Again thanks a lot for your input!
#1640 of 2392 07 Odyssey shakes after the recent recall fix
by jjpcat
Sep 17, 2010 (4:15 pm)
As you may know, there are recently 2 recalls. One is for soft brake pedal. The other is transmission noise. I had the dealer fix both recalls. I immediately notice the shifting pattern is different. That itself might not be an issue as they changed the transmission shifting program. However, the van is now shaking frequently (but not always) when my foot is on the gas pedal. It isn't wheel alignment or tire balancing. Anyone has the same experience? The van has only 14k miles but it's already out of the warranty.
#1641 of 2392 Re: 07 Odyssey shakes after the recent recall fix [jjpcat]
by sbou7
Sep 22, 2010 (10:42 am)
jjpcat...
I just did exactly what you did and experienced the same thing with my 07 Odyssey. I brought it back in, and they discovered that the tourque converter needed to be replaced. I just got it back yesterday, and that seems to have solved the problem. We'll see in the next few days if the "shudder" (as they called it) remains gone.
Also, the trasmission is still covered under warranty to 5yrs/60000 miles.
#1642 of 2392 Re: '01 w/ torque converter lockup issues [cy123]
by pgnagel
Sep 22, 2010 (11:38 am)
That Honda cooler is a joke, but it doesn't hurt anything. You can leave it where it is.
Any Hayden cooler is better than that thing that Honda uses, but a *stacked plate* design is more efficient, although more expensive than a *tube and fin* style. I like this one:
http://www.transmissioncoolers.us/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=- T&Product_Code=1677&Category_Code=hayden-transaver-cooler
I need to check to make sure it will install without problems (specifically the orientation of the fittings).
You can splice into the factory cooler lines to add the filter. Just be sure to use TRANSMISSIONS FLUID LINES! Don't buy fuel line, it can't handle the temperature and pressure.
The Magnafine that I had really saved my bacon. When that clutch disk decided to check out, it barfed metal shavings into the case. The filter caught the debris before it could end up in the valve body and mess up the servo and soleniods.
My mechanic should be working on the van Friday. I'm anxious to get it back. It's been a valuable experience in a lot of ways, but I'm ready to move on to another project.
#1643 of 2392 Re: 07 Odyssey shakes after the recent recall fix [sbou7]
by robpw
Sep 22, 2010 (11:40 am)
I had the torque converter replaced too but now the car idle is rough and the check engine light went on. I will be back there tomorrow. They should have replace the transmission along with the torque converter since it is a combined system and I am sure the tranny has been comprimised from these problems.
#1644 of 2392 Re: 07 Odyssey shakes after the recent recall fix
by arvinp
Sep 27, 2010 (10:12 am)
I have 147,000 miles on my 2003 odyssey and I just had the TCS and Malfunction lights come up too. Have not taken it any where yet since the van is driving good. Somedays the lights even go out completely and then out of the blue just come on. I am strongly assuming, from reading online, that the transmission is on its way out. Hopefully Honda will come up with a recall if we have enough people complaining here.
#1645 of 2392 Re: 07 Odyssey shakes after the recent recall fix [arvinp]
by pgnagel
Sep 27, 2010 (2:08 pm)
When was it last serviced? Do you have a cooler on it? Your TCS light will come on whnever any transmission slippage occurs. When ours would do it I would replace the fluid. I drove it over 100,000 miles like that before a clutch let go. Proper heat management goes a loooong way toward a long happy life for these transmissions.
#1646 of 2392 Re: Must change the transmission fluid [mawizard]
by wamphyr
Sep 27, 2010 (8:34 pm)
I too just recently did the trans oil drain/fill about a week ago. Car started acting funny when cold, slipping from 2nd to 3rd. Two days ago the transmission completely gave out (it's as if I'm in neutral no matter what gear I use except park). Towed it to the dealer, and the dealer indicates the transmission is shot (they want $5K to replace). Dealer indicates I'm 'out of warranty' since I'm after the 7 year 9 month time window.
Had the transmission 'repaired' for the warranty recall issue about 18 months ago, so I called Honda North America to file a case; they basically told me 'your warranty has expired, you're on your own."
Debating if I want to buy another Honda in future. Bottom line, watch out - you're having the same symptoms as mine and their party line is no for a 2001 (too late).