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#1630 of 2416 Re: Transmission #2 [heatherzg]
Sep 12, 2010 (6:43 pm)
I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey with 147K miles and the check engine light came on about three months ago. I tried buying a new gas cap and using premium fuel, but neither worked. I took it to the Honda dealership for a diagnosis and they came back with codes P0740 and P1259. They said I needed a new transmission and Vtec sensor. They wanted to charge me $5,400 which is more than the value of the vehicle, so I decided to get a second opinion.
I received a couple of recommendations to go to a transmission place not to far from my home. They got the same codes but recommended that I they replace the 3rd gear pressure component and do a transmission flush for $250. It took one hour.
That was 4 days ago and no check engine light so far. They said they see a lot of Hondas (mostly Accords) and were surprised that I made it to 147K miles. They also said that in most cases this fix works, but if it doesn't they would credit me the $250 and fix my transmission for $3000.
Hope this helps,
#1631 of 2416 Honda Odyssey Transmission Fix
Sep 12, 2010 (7:24 pm)
I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey with 147K miles. The check engine light came on so I tried premium gas and a new gas cap. Neither worked. I then took the car to the dealership for a diagnosis. They said the car came up with the codes P0740 and P1259. They told me I needed a new transmission and Vtec sensor for about $5,200. I decided to get a second opinion.
I then took my car to a transimission shop that was recommended to me. They ran the diagnosis and found the same codes. Their recommendation was to replace the 3rd gear pressure component and conduct a transmission flush for $250. That was four days ago and the check engine light is still off. They said they see a lot of Hondas (mostly Accords) and were surprised that I made it to 147K miles. They also said in most cases this fix works and no transmission in needed. I will post again if my check engine light comes back on.
Hope this helps,
#1632 of 2416 Transmission or something else?
Sep 14, 2010 (7:24 am)
I have a 2002 EXL with 126,000 miles on it. Last January, I started having problems going uphill. The van seemed to lose power. A couple of times, I had to restart it. Luckily, that only happened in parking lots or I could have been killed. I drive a major hill to work and that's where I seemed to have the most problems. The first time it happened, I drove it directly to the local repair shop. They couldn't find anything wrong with it. I only had this problem sporatically, usually when it was cold, right after I first started the van. In March, I got the name of a friend's mechanic. When I called him about it, he thought it might be the fuel pump relay and told me to check with the dealer to find out if it was one of the year's covered under a recall for that issue. (It's not.) I found many message boards where Ody owners were having the same problems going uphill and blaming either the fuel pump relay or the EGR valve.
So, a couple of times last week, the van started racing on acceleration, RPM's to red. Then, this past Sunday, I was going downhill on the highway when the check engine light came on and the "D" began flashing. It felt like I couldn't get the van to go. I made it up the major hill to the next exit, then drove it to the repair shop. They did the diagnostics Monday and said the error code showed the #1 and #2 selenoid needed to be replaced. They did that, the check engine light went out, and the diagnostics said the problem was fixed. The mechanic drove it, though, and said it was still "freewheeling," (The way he describes freewheeling seems to me like the problem I've been having with the van since January.) Anyway, now he wants to charge me $4000 for a rebuilt transmission.
My question is, if the computer says the error code was fixed by replacing the selenoids, do I really need a new transmission, or could the remaining problem really be the fuel pump relay? I don't want to pay for a new tranny and still have the same problem with the van. Any ideas?
Sep 14, 2010 (7:50 am)
are not an exact science. They basically tell you which area the problem was in (by getting a reading outside of spec), not that it is specifically that part in all cases.
can't say about this particular problem, but it is possible for a failure at one place can show up as an error code downstream.
#1634 of 2416 Re: Transmission or something else? [jmnygaard]
Sep 14, 2010 (2:12 pm)
It sounds to me liked you've smoked a clutch. There is no error code for that. Symptoms of a burned or glazed clutch are just as you described (freewheeling, climbing engine revs without increase in speed, especially on a grade).
Unfortunately there is no fix except to replace the clutches (and steels) as part of a rebuild. There is no magic sauce that you can add. The damage is done.
Are you using a transmission cooler? I think they should be required on these vans. Have one added when you do the rebuild. Hayden makes a good unit for about $70.
#1635 of 2416 Must change the transmission fluid
Sep 15, 2010 (10:35 am)
My 2001 Odyssey, 104K miles, is in the local tranny shop for a complete rebuild. This will be tranny #4. Lynnwood Honda (WA) said it would cost $3800; the local shop said $2600. Apparently the dealer sends the rebuilds to the same local shop (KC Martin), and pays $2600 itself. The dealership wouldn't offer me any discount, even though I've had my van serviced there since day 1.
The mechanic at the local shop, who *only* works on Odysseys, and *only* owns Hondas himself, says it's absolutely necessary to change the transmission fluid every year. He also says that Honda won't tell you this, because that would be an admission of a problem. And of course the warranty and class-action lawsuit have just expired.
Oh, and I was in the (small) shop with two other Odyssey owners. A pox on Honda.
#1636 of 2416 Re: Must change the transmission fluid [liz_in_seattle]
Sep 15, 2010 (10:45 am)
Don't have the work done through Honda. Take it to the local mechanic. I would agree about the fluid change every year, if not more frequent than that. Also insist that a Hayden coller (or equivalent) be installed. Add a filter like a Magnefine as well, unless you want to put another transmission in a few years. And stop driving it like a race car.
#1637 of 2416 Re: Must change the transmission fluid [pgnagel]
Sep 16, 2010 (6:54 pm)
I have a 01 EX Odyssey with 74K miles on it. Honda Dealer performed a trans oil drain/fill 5 days ago. I noticed since then when engine is cold trans gets stuck from changing 1st to 2nd gear, after a while changes with big slip. This happens only when the engine is cold and I have to take it easy on accelerator until it changes to 2nd.
This is 2nd trans which was replaced at 42 K in 2004. Is this a sign of another trans failure ? Should I contact the dealer/AH and check if it's still under warranty ?
#1638 of 2416 Re: Must change the transmission fluid [mawizard]
Sep 17, 2010 (9:35 am)
Have it serviced again. There may be some gunk floating around in the 1-2 shift solenoid. Servicing the tranny only replaces 3 quarts of fluid, while the transmission might hold up to three times that amount.
#1639 of 2416 Re: '01 w/ torque converter lockup issues [pgnagel]
Sep 17, 2010 (10:46 am)
Thanks pgnagel for your message, that's good info, and can't wait for your updates on your rebuilding. Hope all goes well.
I'm not mechanic (just made my transmission fluid change but that's it) so I'm thinking to get cooler and in-line filter installation done by some shop. But I'd like to understand better before asking the shop to do it. Two specific questions:
1. Does the new cooler replace the existing one or it's new add-on? I saw several types of Hayden transmission cooler on their website, I kind of confused what kind I should choose. Are they all fit or just specific one? Which part number are you using?
2. I imagine the in-line filter placed outside the tranny, do you use any existing hose run through it, or how it goes? (I guess it can be put on hose connected to the cooler, am I right?)
Again thanks a lot for your input!