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#1463 of 2392 1999-2001 Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems
May 10, 2010 (4:19 pm)
Hello everyone, I wanted to share my facts with all of you fellow Honda Odyssey owners. My wife and I own a 2001 Honda Odyssey that had its 3rd transmission just go out so, we are asking Honda for #4 in 200K miles. We are averaging 50K miles per transmission.
Facts: Everyone knows Honda had serious design flaws within the transmission in these vehicles. Honda did what they should do, replaced it 3 times. Now, the vehicle has literally no residual value.
Transmission 2: Honda made no significant design modification to the transmission whatsoever and only replaced it with the exact same transmission after the first one failed. I know this for a fact because I asked Honda and investigated it.
Transmission 3: Honda made some very minor internal changes like increasing the size of the orifice within the tranny somewhere but there is no way to know oif your vehicle actually has an old design or new design????
LEGAL: If you have the old tranny, even beyond your warranty, you have legal recourse. Do NOT listen to Honda. Sue them collectively or alone in small claims court. Tell the judge that Honda breached the warranty by knowingly replacing your transmission with one that would also fail because they did not modify it to rectify the design flaws.
Furthermore; You can sue for Breech of Warranty and violation of the Deceptive Trade & Practices Act. The DTPA says that misrepresentation of fact or warranty is an unconscionable action. It takes advantage of the general public's knowledge or ability or experience with transmission design to a gross degree.
Put another way, Honda took advantage of us all. They did not thoroughly re-design a long term fix for the replacement transmissions and most people have no concept of engineering to know that Honda 's lack of diligence to modify and THOROUGHLY test the transmission modifications left thousands or millions of Odyssey Owners with defective merchandise that Honda no longer wishes to replace under warranty.
Additionally: What does this mean: If Your new tranny has less than the Honda warranted 109,000 miles that Honda offered you due to a class action lawsuit settlement, you can sue. The warranty Honda extended was extended on the whole vehicle and Honda hid the fact that replacement transmissions are NOT warranted to another 109K miles. So, you could own an Odyssey, put 3 tranny's in it all under 100K miles and get the 4th one at 109,100 miles.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN: Sue Honda. Demand in court that the show record that the transmissions they replaced in your vehicle were modified in any way and no simply replaced. Make them acknowledge that their was a design flaw (They will say no) and then cite the thousands of others who have had the exact same problem.
Finally: The best thing you can do is blast it all over the net. Start a posting war. Make Honda know that you are telling people NOT to buy Honda! The Odyssey transmission is CRAP. Even in the new Odyssey the tranny is junk. It has fewer issues but is still problematic.
May 10, 2010 (4:28 pm)
Don't ever buy a Honda again! They don;t honor their stuff! NO HONOR! Honda Odyssey's are trash!
#1465 of 2392 AVOID HONDA OF BOWIE, MD
May 10, 2010 (4:44 pm)
I posted earlier. So I contacted the dealer and Honda. Honda is now offering me $1600 towards a $4500 fix. Upon hearing that Honda of Bowie jacked up the cost $1000 to now $5500 to fix the transmission.
I told the corporate drones that Honda will be Toyota soon in terms of destroyed reputation. If you see the internal Toyota documents you see that they didn't want to do a recall and if they did, they wanted to do it on the cheap. This is what Honda is doing.
My wife and kids ride in the Odyssey. I know don't trust it or the dealer who never disclosed to me there was a recall on the transmission despite repeated complaints. AVOID HONDA OF BOWIE AT ALL COSTS. THEY NEVER DISCLOSED THIS PROBLEM DESPITE REPEATED COMNPLAINTS OF JUDDERING AT 40 MPH. In fact they have charged me $100 to let me know the transmission is broker.
I WILL NEVER BUY A HONDA AGAIN. THEY ARE THE NEW TOYOTA.
AVOID HONDA OF BOWIE, MD TOO. I WOULD NEVER TRUST THEM TO WORK ON MY CAR AGAIN.
#1466 of 2392 Re: Honda Odyssey Transmission and other issues [rfreitas]
May 10, 2010 (4:47 pm)
"They just want to wait till you are out of warranty, so you will have to pay for it... What year is it?"
Totally agree. I brought in my 2002 Honda Odyssey for the last 2 years complaining about my transmission, They could never replicate the problem. It goes out of warranty and bang, they find the problem.
AVOID HONDA OF BOWIE and DON'T BUY A HONDA.
#1467 of 2392 Re: 2007 honda odessey transmission issues [gr26]
May 11, 2010 (6:56 am)
I have had transmission/torque converter problems, but with my 2003 VW Passat wagon. The torque converter "went out", so we replaced it for $1600+. A few weeks later the slipping started again, and the transmission repair shop told us something in the transmission was causing the torque converter to wear out. We chose to buy a used transmission ($1800+installation) and then trade the vehicle after fixing it.
Based on my experience, you might choose to replace the whole transmission. I just took my 2009 Odyssey in for a "product update" for a "judder" issue with the torque converter.
#1468 of 2392 Twice the Odyssey
May 11, 2010 (11:28 am)
My 2002 Odyssey that I purchased new required a its second transmission at 78,000 miles. I was driving at a low speed near home when the car shuddered after downshifting unexpectedly. In this case, I had purchased the extended warranty after a grueling day at the dealership. It turned out to be a good thing, and the new transmission cost me $50 out of pocket. At 140,000 miles the engine light and TCS light were on. Diagnostics pointed to the torque converter. I chose not to spend more money on the vehicle and drove it (only locally) for approximately another year until it stranded me on the interstate. I could either spend several thousand dollars in repairs that I probably wouldn't recoup on an immediate sale, or I could dump it and lick my wounds. Sold for $750 in January 2010.
I still have a 2007 Odyssey that I also purchased new. I had the steering worked on under warranty, and it now feels as though the power steering is failing again. I've also been notified of two recalls - one for transmission and one for breaks.
Both vehicles handle(d) really well and proved versatile when loading for weekend adventures. The service records, however, have been lackluster. I apparently have been sucker enough to buy the one crappy car in the Honda lineup twice. Naming this vehicle seems to be Honda's most on-target part of its production: Odyssey - a long series of wanderings or adventures, esp. when filled with notable experiences, hardships, etc.
#1469 of 2392 Re: Another victim to Honda's Transmission issue [hondahawaii]
May 14, 2010 (10:54 am)
did honda ever compensate you for the EGR valve? I have 95000 miles on my 2001 and it's beyond the 8 years and 80k miles. i tried calling Honda Customer Relations and the woman wasn't that helpful. she did take down my number and said someone would call me back. i'm not holding my breath.
#1470 of 2392 2000 odyssey 4th transmisson
May 14, 2010 (6:26 pm)
Had our 3th transmission replaced on April 27, 2010.First broke at 25488,did not make the recomended fluid service at 30000.Second broke at 70657mi(45157mi on the second).Third at 108849(38192mi on third).Honda America paid for half off the price of transmission but would not budge on the labor.Our other car is a Toyota Camry with 104675 and have had no major problem with that car. We are now looking to replace the Odyssey and WILL stay far away from Hondas.
#1471 of 2392 another odyssey transmission bites the dust
May 15, 2010 (11:54 am)
Yep, we're another "only dealer serviced, babied" 2003 Odyssey owner with a tranny failure at 108k miles. The dealer is quoting us $5400 for a new one. They and Honda America are agreeing to pay $50% as they agree there are problems with Odyssey transmission from that model year. Um, if they acknowledge manufacturer error, why are WE required to pay anything?
We will be trading in our 2008 Honda Civic, and getting rid of the Odyssey as well. We will never buy another Honda.
Our dilemma at this point is do we have to pay the almost $3k to fix this thing, just to trade it in? Seeing as how many people on are on their 2nd and 3rd trannies, we have no faith that even getting a new one will guarantee us safety and reliability and a return on our investment.
Wonder why the class action suit of the earlier models has not extended to the '03 and '04?
May 15, 2010 (2:23 pm)
I purchased this oddy in feb and had no problems with it until yesterday when I was leaving to go to the grocery store. I put the van in reverse and backed up with no problems, then I put it into drive and noticed it took about 1 sec longer for the van to engage into drive. It feels like it slips into gear and the van jolts forward just a little. I took it to the dealer where I purchased it and he told me it sounds like the tranny needs to be flushed and filled. Anyone out there have any suggestions that could help me get this fixed?