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#1239 of 1285 02 Odyssey Idle by aomorales Nov 04, 2009 (8:17 pm)
Hello, everybody I am just new here at the forum but I am an owner of 02 Odyssey. We have bought the van last May, 2009 since my suv was totaled. Me and my wife decided to look for a weekend car since we already owned two cars and we need a bigger space when traveling out of town. We bought the van thru Craigslist.com for 6.9K. The owner listed the van with a 99k miles, brand new tranny and ECM which was replaced by Honda which he provided the paperwork for the service that have been done. Now, after couple more maintenance like replacing the timing belt, new sets of tires the van was running fine, Until one day two months ago and up to now I have noticed that when the van is in idle or park while engine running the RPM suddenly becomes erratic for unknown reason. My wife noticed it too and asked me if there is something wrong with van...I told her it probably needs a tune-up but I am not sure really on what is going on. The erractic on idle doesn't happen a lot only after I started it after a week or two week being park at the drive way. Any idea guys on what's going on internally on my van? Your comment will be greatly aapreciated. thank you.   02odyssey3rdowner Replies to this message: phlion79 (Nov 05, 2009 6:07 am)
#1240 of 1285 Re: 02 Odyssey Idle [aomorales] by phlion79 Nov 05, 2009 (6:07 am)
Replying to: aomorales (Nov 04, 2009 8:17 pm) This is not a transmission issue.
#1241 of 1285 Re: torque converter replacement by cottduke Nov 05, 2009 (6:26 am)
Replying to: cottduke (Oct 26, 2009 8:20 am) Had the torque converter replaced last week----ran about $670 out of pocket, since dealership paid 50% (only had van about a month---purchased used from Honda dealer). This seems to have taken care of the shudder---I haven't felt that definitive "rumble strip"-type shudder since the repair. Of course now I am sensitive to every vibration, bump, or rough spot in the road...but I think that's paranoia more than anything. In short...the torque converter replacement, in my opinion, seemed to do the trick for me.
#1242 of 1285 2007 honda odessey transmission issues by rdoud Nov 05, 2009 (8:06 am)
feel the shifting when going into and out of economy mode. Even feel shifting when not changing to economy. had software update and replaced torque converter. RPM needle fluxuates as if you were accelerating when at constant speed. Still having occasional juddering between 30 & 40 mph. Returning to dealer today. Not sure how to handle?? Appreciate any suggestions. Replies to this message: gr26 (Nov 06, 2009 9:05 am) phlion79 (Nov 09, 2009 12:33 pm)
#1243 of 1285 Re: 2007 honda odessey transmission issues [rdoud] by gr26 Nov 06, 2009 (9:05 am)
Replying to: rdoud (Nov 05, 2009 8:06 am) Same issue with me, except 2001 Odyssey, 90K miles. A month ago they serviced the TX fluid twice. Over the last month that's improved the problem quite a bit, but not fully. Today took it back, and they said replace the TX. Honda of America would cover 25% of the cost of the TX itself. Still, total out of pocket would be about $3200.   If the only time I sense a problem is when the torque converter locks in, should I replace the entire TX, or just the torque converter. Given the frequency of problems with the TX itself, I am contemplating doing the whole job. Just the torque converter (with labor) is around $1600.
#1244 of 1285 Honda Dealer or Independent Shop for Transmission Replace by gr26 Nov 06, 2009 (9:09 am)
What are experiences going with Honda Dealer or an Independent (or Chain) Transmission Shop? I can get 36 months/36K mile warranty from Honda Dealer. What do independent shops usually provide in terms of warranty? Do most independent shops use OEM transmissions? Thoughts?
#1245 of 1285 Re: TC [stickguy] by gr26 Nov 06, 2009 (9:18 am)
Replying to: stickguy (Oct 27, 2009 8:51 am) My Honda dealer quoted me about $1600 for the TC only (Honda would cover about $200 of this in my case), and about $3900 for the whole transmission (Honda would cover about $700). Dealer says the labor is the same either way ($800+ of the cost).
#1246 of 1285 Re: 2007 honda odessey transmission issues [rdoud] by phlion79 Nov 09, 2009 (12:33 pm)
Replying to: rdoud (Nov 05, 2009 8:06 am) >> feel the shifting when going into and out of economy mode.   Pay close attention to this -- I went for a ride w/ a honda tech and showed him 3 issues w/ my 2007 ody: 1) the judder (easy to recognize) 2) tach jumps in 1/10s when in 3rd gear, primarily 3) punch, or "shift" feeling (similar to what you describe).   Tech said all 3 were the tourque converter -- I was surprised #3, b/c on these forums I had been led to believe that #3 was just going into / out of VCM. He said that if the VCM theory were correct, the punches should loosely correspond to when ECO light comes on. He said ECO might not exactly be when it goes into VCM or comes out of it, but it is within a few seconds of it... The punches I was experiencing, he said, were the torque converter stop plate slipping.   Anyway, they did the software update, and said this fixed the problem. I said I wanted a tech experienced w/ this problem to take it for a test ride before I pick it up. They did this, and the tech found the judder on 5th attemp up a slight incline, under mild accel. So now they're putting in a tourque converter. Dealer said Honda cost for the procedure was $1660, for me it would have been about $2600. All covered under powertrain warranty.   On separate note, I asked if they've re-engineered the part now... Tech said as he understood it, they've deteremined the part was always OK, and the shift point definitions were the problem -- so the software update is what you ultimately need to prevent this from happening.
#1247 of 1285 2010 Odyssey transmission by odydvdnav Nov 10, 2009 (8:38 am)
I'm planning on buying a new 2010 Odyssey. I saw this thread and got a little bit concerned. Does anyone know if Honda has resolved the transmission issues for the 2010 models? I appreciate your feedback. Replies to this message: phlion79 (Nov 10, 2009 8:49 am)
#1248 of 1285 Re: 2010 Odyssey transmission [odydvdnav] by phlion79 Nov 10, 2009 (8:49 am)
Replying to: odydvdnav (Nov 10, 2009 8:38 am) All I know is the "judder" service bulletin (09-051 (or is it 053?)) from late July of this year I believe only goes through 2009 vehicles -- in talking w/ the service guy, his sense is the software upgrade redefined shift points, and this takes care of the problem. I don't understand why this is so hard for Honda to get right -- this is age old tech.   I got my 07 back last night w/ new TX -- seems that problem is solved.

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