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1297 messages, Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 11:50 AM
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My tranny failed on a 500 mile trip to the beach. Mileage on the 2003 Odyssey was about 103,000. Cost me $4800 to replace the tranny and ECU. About $3800 for the tranny and $1000 for the ECU. Early symptoms were sudden lurching of the transmission when riding at a constant speed, maybe slowing. Occurred infrequently. Not enough for me to think about taking to repair shop. Bad symptoms appeared on this trip. Van would shift from 5th gear to a low gear (say 1st!) when travelling at 70mph on the highway. Kinda caused a big lurch. But, we made it to the beach and then the local Honda dealer for repair. The dealer said Honda will not help with the cost. I am going to write letters and make some phone calls. Suggesting on getting Honda to share the cost is appreciated. It seems that a Honda transmission should last more than 103k miles. I did not tow anything.
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Replying to: jhazard (Aug 05, 2009 6:16 am) |
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http://www.automallusa.net/2002/honda/odyssey/recalls.html tells me this: 2002 Honda Odyssey Recalls 2002 HONDA ODYSSEY Recall ID from NHTSA: 04V176000 Auto Recall Date: APR 15, 2004 Vehicle Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION Model Affected ODYSSEY Estimated Vehicles Affected: 1099796 Recall Details Auto Recall Date: APR 15, 2004 Vehicle Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ...ON SOME MINI VANS, SPORT UTILITY AND PASSENGER VEHICLES, CERTAIN OPERATING CONDITIONS CAN RESULT IN HEAT BUILD-UP BETWEEN THE COUNTERSHAFT AND SECONDARY SHAFT SECOND GEARS IN THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO GEAR TOOTH CHIPPING OR GEAR BREAKAGE. ...ON VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 15,000 MILES, THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION TO IDENTIFY GEARS THAT HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED DISCOLORATION DUE TO OVERHEATING. IF DISCOLORATION EXISTS, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE REPLACED IF DISCOLORATION IS NOT PRESENT, THE DEALER WILL PERFORM THE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE. My 2002 Odyssey has 102,000 miles. This language seems to clearly say I get a new transmission if those gears have problems. Does it really mean "if discoloration exists, dealer will replace transmission for $4000?" |
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ours was bought new. I did a lot of research (in fact some from Edmunds) to buy this vehicle. Ironically, I avoided Chrysler for their tranny problems. So much for Honda's stellar quality reputation. It is shot as far as I am concerned. Had the recall done as soon as we were notified (31k), had the blinking D problem just after our extended warranty expired at 107k (replaced 4th gear switch - $300) and now at 121k the transmission must be replaced (estimated $4850). I opened a case but Honda has denied me any participation in a good-will effort to help repair this. The car's tradein is about 4500, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to do this repair... still thinking about it, but may go to a private shop for a rebuilt one. It seems to me that the recall and the other tranny repair were just delays to get a flawed design over the warranty expiration so that they do not need to cover the cost of repairing their mistake. I will not be buying a Honda again unless I know that the current model I am buying has a track record of no flawed design.
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Replying to: yankfan19 (Aug 11, 2009 8:59 am) |
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Replying to: jet_tester (Jul 03, 2009 6:15 pm) Me too...I just purchased a 2007 Honda Odyssey with 30k miles on it. At 31k miles and three weeks later (haven't made the first payment yet) I take it in for a "thumping" that happens as you keep a consistent speed (like a tranny searching for a gear constantly). We also have a shutter/vibration that occurs at 40mph when you let off the gas and give it gas (usually on an incline). I was told about the service bulletin to update the specs in the computer, they did it, and it does it worse. I currently have a torque converter and transmission on order. Waiting for my repair to occur. This is sickening, given that I did my research and there were NO prior warranty claims on this vehicle per Honda and carfax checked out clean. Thankfully, it is still under factory warranty and with the Honda Certified warranty, the transmission is covered until 100k miles. If I continue to have the tranny problem after this install, I will be revisiting the dealer that sold me this vehicle to work out some kind of trade. The service bulletin (which is a borderline recall) states that all cars in used inventory is to be updated prior to selling. Mine was not and if they would have done that and driven it, they would have known it still had an issue. So I take the depreciation hit for having a transmission problem in its past (it will have it in its past) and I am not happy
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Replying to: jennybecky (Aug 12, 2009 9:29 am) |
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Wow, quite interesting seeing all this, really surprised at HOnda, thought i had bought a car that would at least go till 100K with no problems Anywho mine, i started hearing this " Crank" noise when we drove in the morning as the tranny shifted and every so often vibrated upon shiftage. Other day i saw this big puddle Oil and took it straight to dealersip. ( Ourisman honda laurel Md ) Initially they said there was nothing wrong with car which I wouldnt buy and asked to speak to manager. He stated the same thing but said hed drive it and low and behold i get a call back and he said theres deffinately something wrong. Short story Tranny has to be replaced ( car at 6r k miles) I had purchased extended warranty ( thnk god) and i just picked car up. This has me really worried and was wondering if i should sell the car ( We love it) or just hope nothing else major happens? |
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Replying to: oscarzanders (Aug 10, 2009 8:07 am)
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Replying to: minivanfam (Aug 13, 2009 8:02 am) What bothers me is our 1994 Accord is still rolling strong at 395,000 miles and we will run it till it craps the bed and dies. We maintain our vehicles with a passion and drive them with care. Our immediate family has owned over 135 Honda vehicles as a whole over the last 25 years. Collectively the J (Japan) built Honda's have been the most reliable with no issues. Unfortunately The North American built Honda's do not share the same reliability and characteristics. We are a family that buys "new" and drives them till they die. We have three vehicles we have to replace in the next few months and they will not be Honda's. The Honda transmission issues have "profoundly" affected our decision to not even entertain purchasing Honda products in the near and far future. Honda, If you are listening. We have been faithful customers that have swore to friends, family and acquaintances that your automobiles have been the best made on earth for over the last 25 years. Because of Honda's rather blatantly flagrent disregard to these "transmission" issues. Honda, in the borrowed word's of Mr. Trump "YOU'RE FIRED" We will not repair the 2001 Odyssey when the transmission finally fails. It is a tragedy that a vehicle that is so well built and looks cosmetically and functionally fantastic will have to be sent to the junk yard because of a "poorly designed" Honda transmission that Honda will not stand behind with integrity. I guess the JUNK YARD IS WHERE IT BELONGS. Ford has a much better idea. They are building them like Honda did many years ago. They smartly took a page out of Honda's quality in manufacturing book.
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