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#84 of 123 Re: high acceleration engine cutting out [richman1]
Jan 28, 2008 (10:10 am)
If the sound really ends in "clickaclicka schploot" your problem could be terminal!
Seriously, you will probably need to have the engine scanned for any codes. Even if the check engine light doesn't come on, diagnostics can be done. Like Akirby, I would be suspicious of fuel pressure. That could be filter, fuel pressure regulator, or fuel pump. A bad COP could also cause the problem. They can stress test the COPS and pinpoint if they are the problem.
There are SO many things that can cause this, I wouldn't recommend just throwing parts at it. Mine had a problem last week and it was caused by an insect getting caught in the mass air flow sensor.
#85 of 123 Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8
Jan 29, 2008 (2:28 am)
I'm thinking about getting an '02 Lincoln LS V8 from Carmax (Stock# 4308961 in Waukesha, WI for those who want to look it up). It has 57K miles on it, and it's $14,998.
I liked this car ever since it came out, but I've been reading reviews since I'm thinking about getting one, and they have definitely been very mixed. I've seen a lot of people saying they've had a lot of repair/maintenance issues, and that the car is expensive to maintain, in which case I don't know if I want to get it...
Also, I read that many improvements were made starting in '03, and that the '00-'02 LS V8s had some transmission problems...
I was just wondering if I could get some reviews from some actual owners...
#86 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [cumptrnrd]
Jan 29, 2008 (6:06 am)
Actually the 03's had more transmission problems than the 02s. The 02 was the best year of the first gen - it actually has about 10 more hp than advertised due to a new airbox. You'll probably have to replace the COPs and maybe the valve cover gaskets but the tranny should be fine (famous last words). The other potential replacements are sway bars/bushings and front ball joints. Keep in mind that many folks have had none of these problems on their 00-02 LS while some have had most or all of these. The bargain purchase price more than makes up for a few repairs and it's a great car to drive. That car probably stickered over $40K new.
Do you get a warranty from CarMax?
#87 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [akirby]
Jan 29, 2008 (6:51 am)
I have had my LS for 38 months. It had 32000mi when I bought. It now has 154000mi. It has been a great car. I have replaced 3 Ignition coils, $250.each. I have replaced the front rotors, etc. $200. I replaced all 4 wheels, I had a front end vibration that we could not get rid of. I spent $125.00 for after market wheels, no more vibration. I drive all road miles 125mi per day 5 days a week. I would say it has been one of the most reliable cars I have owned. It is fun to drive and comfotable. I am probably going to buy another in the spring.
#88 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [cumptrnrd]
Jan 29, 2008 (6:50 pm)
My '02 LS (V8) definitely has its problems. But the anticipated enjoyment of driving it keeps me going. Not for the faint of heart, and must have a sense of curiosity to own one (needs constant attention).
I have 53K miles on it and had the tranny rebuilt at 20K (under warranty), but tranny is acting up again at 53K.
Heated driver seat doesn't work, airbag light is on, lug nuts are annoying, paint has bubbled in a few spots... but the car is fun to drive. Would I buy another... maybe not, but compared to the cost of the comparable bimmer, these cars are a deal provided you like to work on cars.
#89 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [ccicak]
Jan 29, 2008 (11:29 pm)
Would you guys recommend getting the V8 or the V6? There is a decent power difference, but only 1MPG difference in gas mileage...
What do you think you would choose between an '02 LS and an '02 Acura TL Type S?
#90 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [cumptrnrd]
Jan 30, 2008 (4:53 am)
I still love my LS but honestly, I did also consider an Acura before I bought the LS. I liked the rear wheel drive of the LS vs front wheel. The Acura will probably require less maintenance. My LS has the Sport Pkg. Tough choice might come down to price. I got a heck of a deal on the LS.
#91 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [ccicak]
Jan 30, 2008 (7:50 am)
We have a 2000 LS V-6 with sport package with 115K miles that we are selling. We just bought a 2008 Accord EX. The LS drives very nice on smooth roads. In city driving, you feel the car's weight, and when the road gets rough, the LS gets rough.
LS is not a nimble car. My 2001 E430 at 3750 pounds feels like it is a 3200 pound car. The LS at same weight feels heavy.
The LS has an excellent driving position and highway manners. the seats are comfortable, both road and wind noise are low.
I think you can do better with the price. $14-15K seems high for a 02 LS V-8. Track a few LS's on E-bay to see what the going prices are and add $800-$1000 for shipping.
Don't feel bad if this LS slips away as there are tons of good used cars out there.
#92 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [jodar96]
Jan 30, 2008 (5:52 pm)
Thanks for all the feedback, everyone.
After reading Edmunds' long-term test of their '00 Lincoln LS (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/LongTerm/articleId=44682#9), I'm not so sure anymore... They said they had a lot of problems, especially with the transmission... Have you guys read this? Is it valid? I haven't read anything nearly as bad about the '02 TL Type S as some of the things I have read about the first-gen LS... Granted, the long-term test was on an '00, and the one I'm looking at is an '02, but did they make any changes in that first generation?
#93 of 123 Re: Carmax 2002 Lincoln LS V8 [cumptrnrd]
Jan 31, 2008 (5:53 am)
Don't believe everything you read, especially on Edmunds. The transmission problems on their 00 LS were fixed by a software update and TSB. I personally told the editor about the TSB after one of their monthly reports where they complained about it. The editor took it in for service and instead of asking about the TSB he decided to "test" the service writer and see if he would find it on his own. He didn't so they continued to drive the car and complain about the tranny for the next 3 months. Irritating, to say the least.
The 00 was the very first model year and had some teething problems. The 02s were much, much better and even had a few more (unadvertised) hp due to a new airbox. You may have to replace the COPs and the valve cover gaskets plus the front sway bar. Some have had to replace front ball joints but not a lot.
It's not perfect but the handling more than makes up for a few repairs (yours may have already had those repairs). Do a panic stop from 70 and notice how it just squats down and stops - no nose dive at all.