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#67 of 98 Re: Rattle Noise - Sway bar Bushings [adam_ls] by jmn1964 Nov 20, 2008 (10:33 pm)
Replying to: adam_ls (Nov 09, 2008 11:00 am) Thanks for posting this info; you have solved the front end rattle problem of all LS owners. I have been trying to locate this noise for years and now its fixed. I replaced the lower ball joints and struts and the noise/rattle was still the same. These cars did have lower ball joint problems and mine ended up being bad so it did not hurt to replace them, but they are not the cause of the rattle noise. I ordered the same sway bar bushings you listed from energy suspension parts; part # 9.5171 and they do fit and the noise is gone! Its strange because the old sway bar bushings will not even look bad. It's a #$!* to change these bushings but it is the solution to the problem EVERYONE is having. Thanks again, I owe you a Christmas card! Replies to this message: cdnpinhead (Nov 22, 2008 5:21 am) jmn1964 (Nov 22, 2008 7:54 pm) 252hpls8 (Aug 24, 2009 2:14 pm) signalman56 (Jun 13, 2009 4:19 am)
#68 of 98 Re: Rattle Noise - Sway bar Bushings [jmn1964] by cdnpinhead Nov 22, 2008 (5:21 am)
Replying to: jmn1964 (Nov 20, 2008 10:33 pm) You're not a fully-initiated member of the '00-'02 LS club until you've replaced a set of sway bar bushings (or put in the new one-piece replacement bar) and a minimum of two window regulators. Extra credit is awarded for COPs, cooling system "issues" and hot air blowing from one or the other vents when the A/C is on, but first you've got to do the busings and regulators.   Welcome aboard.   I've done two of the regulators myself (one front, one rear) and had three (one front, two rear) fixed under warranty. Car's still running okay at 128K miles, but the cooling fan runs too fast. Replies to this message: jmn1964 (Nov 22, 2008 7:54 pm) 252hpls8 (Aug 24, 2009 2:14 pm) signalman56 (Jun 13, 2009 4:19 am)
#69 of 98 Re: Rattle Noise - Sway bar Bushings [cdnpinhead] by jmn1964 Nov 22, 2008 (7:54 pm)
Replying to: cdnpinhead (Nov 22, 2008 5:21 am) I've had my LS for 5 years, 126K. I've never had a problem with a window regulator, although I hear owners complaining about this all the time; I'm just lucky I guess. I have the other common LS problems: Front end rattle (now fixed), Air bag light on, Leaky valve cover gaskets (now fixed), and occasional engine miss.....which is my next project. These are the finest cars I've seen in some ways, but they all have the same problems. Replies to this message: 252hpls8 (Aug 24, 2009 2:14 pm)
#70 of 98 an odd noise after 50MPH by barnzy416 Jan 11, 2009 (12:39 pm)
I have a 2001 V8 ls I just started to notice a whistling noise comming from the motor when i hit about 50 mph at first i thought it was road noise but it definetly isnt..
#71 of 98 Re: Rattle Noise - Sway bar Bushings [cdnpinhead] by signalman56 Jun 13, 2009 (4:19 am)
Replying to: cdnpinhead (Nov 22, 2008 5:21 am) All 4 regulators done. I think I got the last one done in 45 min. Those bushings really get the tribbling basket ball out of the front end? I did both knuckles (lower ball joint). Now the upper is shot. I thought that was on the knuckle, guess not. Upper control arm time? Or is the the upper ball joint available solo? Keep those moonroof drain hole clean! And make sure you have enough steering fluid in the fan pump. I don't wanna even talk about the COPs Thanks, Ron
#72 of 98 Re: Yesssss, I realy have bad ball ends. [dc_rhoads] by mommi Jun 15, 2009 (8:00 pm)
Replying to: dc_rhoads (Jul 16, 2007 3:16 pm) I used to own a 2000 Lincoln LS V8. On january 23, 2007 i was going only about 30 mph (thank God!)and my driver side wheel just kinda broke off and wedged under my car as i struggled to maintain control and steer it to the side of the road. People passing were absolutely in awe and were pulling over to take pictures! It freaked me out...i wondered how something like that could even happen. After researching i found out there was a recall on that make and model (ones assembled at the Wixom Assembly Plant). Safety Recall # 00S39 Front Suspension Lower Ball Joints. I bought it from Import One, and therefore didn't own the vehicle at the time the recall was issued but a man at a Lincoln dealership told me something to the effect of the owner of the car at the time brought the car in to a Lincoln dealership in Lake Charles and was told the recall didn't apply to that car...i'm not sure if the vin wasn't included in the recall or if the defect wasn't occuring. I wasn't quite sure of exactly what the hell was going on. This all was just insane and hard for me to process. Why did this happen? How could this happen? Wheels aren't supposed to break off cars!!! It was really scary for me to think of what could have possibly happened if i would have been on the interstate going 70 mph...especially with my son in the car with me! I no longer have the car but have hired a lawyer and am seeking any information anyone may have regarding this matter. I am not happy and i want answers! Thanks for your time! Brandy
#73 of 98 BEWARE OF SAFETY RECALL #00S39-Certain 2000-2001 Model Year Lincoln LS by mommi Jun 15, 2009 (8:29 pm)
2000-2001 Lincoln LS owners beware...please read my story! 100% TRUE!   On january 23, 2007 i was the owner of what i thought was a very safe and reliable 2000 Lincoln LS V8. I was driving only about 30 mph (thank God!)and all of a sudden with no warning my driver side wheel broke off! It wedged under my car as i struggled to maintain control and steer it to the side of the road. People passing were absolutely in awe and were pulling over to take pictures! It freaked me out...i wondered how something like that could even happen. After researching i found out there was a recall on that make and model (ones assembled at the Wixom Assembly Plant). SAFETY RECALL # 00S39 FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINTS. I bought the car from Import One and didn't own the vehicle at the time the recall was issued but a man at a Lincoln dealership told me something to the effect of the owner of the car at the time brought the car in to a Lincoln dealership in Lake Charles and was told the recall didn't apply to that car...i'm not sure if the vin wasn't included in the recall or if the defect wasn't occuring. I wasn't quite sure of exactly what the hell was going on. This all was just insane and hard for me to process. Why did this happen? How could this happen? Wheels aren't supposed to break off cars!!! It was really scary for me to think of what could have possibly happened if i would have been on the interstate going 70+ mph...especially with my son (who was 1 yr old at the time) in the car with me! I no longer have the car but have hired a lawyer and am seeking any information anyone may have regarding this matter. I am not happy and i want answers! I also want to make others aware so this doesn't happen to anyone else with possibly much worse consequences! Brandy Replies to this message: akirby (Jun 16, 2009 6:18 am) mommi (Jun 16, 2009 12:14 pm) expolice (Oct 29, 2009 10:36 am)
#74 of 98 Re: BEWARE OF SAFETY RECALL #00S39-Certain 2000-2001 Model Year Lincoln LS [mommi] by akirby Jun 16, 2009 (6:18 am)
Replying to: mommi (Jun 15, 2009 8:29 pm) This happened 2.5 years ago and you're just now following up on it? Yes, there was a recall for a potential loose nut or bolt IIRC. Was that the cause of your wheel failure? No way to know for sure. 7 years is a long time. Who are you going to sue? Not sure you'd be able to prove liability and even then you'd only get the amount of the repairs. Replies to this message: mommi (Jun 16, 2009 12:14 pm) expolice (Oct 29, 2009 10:36 am)
#75 of 98 Re: BEWARE OF SAFETY RECALL #00S39-Certain 2000-2001 Model Year Lincoln LS [akirby] by mommi Jun 16, 2009 (12:14 pm)
Replying to: akirby (Jun 16, 2009 6:18 am) thanks for your reply! No...i sought immediate legal advice. It has been filed but it has jus taken the lawyer this long to research everything and rule out the possibility of a class action suit. All the automotive experts that examined it told me that yes that surely did seem to be the cause. The actual print out of the recall from Ford Motor Company states this: Some of the affected vehicles may have an under-torque condition of the front suspension lower ball joint attaching nut. An under-torque condition may result in loosening of the attaching nut. In some cases this can result in a fracture of the ball stud, which may lead to a separation of the lower control arm from the steering knuckle. i assure you that even to see pictures of it would bother you and give you quite disturbing thoughts! My lawyer is deciding who is fully responsible...or whether it is two parties responsible... 1 being the Lincoln dealership who declined to fix the problem at the time of the recall, 2 being the other reputable dealership i bought the car from in the summer of 2006 (not a Lincoln dealership but possibly should examined the car better for problems before selling it!) We definitely are doing what we can to get to the bottom of exactly happened! Replies to this message: expolice (Oct 29, 2009 10:36 am)

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