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Re: allocations... [webwarmiller] by austinman7
Aug 27, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: webwarmiller (Aug 27, 2008 7:33 am)

Thanks -- that's interesting information. Is it really that easy with Mazda to get that much of a discount? Seems almost too good to be true. Are all Mazda dealers obligated to accept S-Plan?
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Re: allocations... [austinman7] by aviboy97
Aug 27, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: austinman7 (Aug 27, 2008 9:17 am)

No, dealers are not obligated to accept S-Plan.
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Re: Altima uses premium [captain2] by nvbanker
Aug 27, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 26, 2008 9:58 am)

Had the 500 had the 260 hp we wouldn't have the Taurus today I bet.
 
mmmmmmmm ......maybe, but I agree with Mulally - it was a mistake to throw away the Taurus brand, even though it had been devalued and cheapened so horribly over the years, it was still a very well recognized brand, if no longer respected. If he can re-do the Taurus, as they now have, and make it a world class mid sized (or full sized as they now call it) car again, the brand will work where the 500 was an f-ing mistake with Bill Ford's obsession about alliteration.
Sure, it needed the engine, but it needed to be a Taurus too. Now it is. The new Taurus looks a lot like the Mazda 6 from what I've seen, and that should be a hit.
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Re: Altima uses premium [nvbanker] by aviboy97
Aug 27, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 27, 2008 9:44 am)

New Taurus looks like the 09 Mazda6???? Are you sure??
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Re: allocations... [austinman7] by webwarmiller
Aug 27, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: austinman7 (Aug 27, 2008 9:17 am)

Not all dealers are required to accept S-Plan, but I've never heard of one who doesn't.
 
First off, make sure to indentify yourself as S-Plan from the start. I was treated EXTREMELY well by the 2 dealerships I visited. I can only guess that they prefer S-Plan members as the price is set by Mazda and makes the whole procedure a no-haggle process.
 
The first (TownNorth) allowed me to look at the invoice book for each model I was considering. I was also allowed to look at the dealership's future allocation. Unfortunately for this dealer, they didn't have what I wanted (iGT 1MC black/black) on the lot and didn't have any coming in the very near future (most of their allocation hadn't even hit the assembly line yet). They tried to swap with another dealership; but, with such a hot new model, the other dealerships weren't in the mood for swapping. The sales manager's name was Alex and he was EXTREMELY forthright with everything........a complete 180* from most dealers. I really wanted to buy from him but he simply couldn't get the car I wanted.
 
I knew that Freeman Mazda had the exact model I wanted so I called them and got their Internet/Fleet sales guy on the phone (Clay). Told him I was S-Plan and that I wanted to buy the Black/Black iGT he had on the lot. He said no problem and I bought the car that night.
 
I'm pretty sure Mazda gives the dealers some form of extra holdback when a vehicle is purchased under S-Plan. What this means is that you get the car for invoice yet the dealer still makes money. A win for both parties involved.
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Re: Altima uses premium [aviboy97] by nvbanker
Aug 27, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 27, 2008 9:59 am)

Well, that's what the spy shot reminded me of when I saw it. YMMV.... But it looked hot to me.
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Re: Altima uses premium [nvbanker] by captain2
Aug 27, 2008 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 27, 2008 9:44 am)

attempting to capitalize on the 'retro' craze is where the 'Five Hundred' name came from . From about the same era as the Chrysler 300 - it worked to some extent for Chrysler, but nobody seemingly remembered things like the Galaxie 500s that Ford was attempting to capitalize on. The Five Hundred in 05 was a real 'space ship' and pretty well conceived with its Volvo roots - except that it had to fail at least in part due to the wheezy DT3.0 in a near 2 ton car. The Taurus OTH had unfortunately evolved into the star of the Hertz lots., remained in production for awhile specifically and only for 'fleet' sales,and IMO also represents a poor naming choice because of this. It is nothing more than a thinly disguised Five Hundred (new grille and tailights) but obviously with a whole lot less 'wheeze'. The Taurus name may indeed more recognizable to anybody under 60 or so but I'm not so sure that it is remembered especially well. The Taurus continues to struggle salewise -despite rather aggressive initial pricing., the car can be bought at several thousands in discounts, rebates and/or financing incentives
How you would think that is even related to the rather credible effort Mazda stylists did with the new 6 is beyond me, the 6 is a good looking car, the Taurus looked better IMO when it was called the Five Hundred.
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Re: Altima uses premium [captain2] by qddave
Aug 27, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 27, 2008 11:53 am)

I'm pretty sure he meant the upcoming 2010 Taurus. The spy photos out on the net show a more muscular stance and incorporate Ford's kinetic design language seen on the upcoming Fiesta.
 
I don't think anyone in their right mind would liken a current Taurus to a Mazda6.
 
Dave
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Re: allocations... [webwarmiller] by murphydog
Aug 27, 2008 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: webwarmiller (Aug 27, 2008 10:00 am)

When the current 3 was launched none of the local Seattle dealer would honer S plan pricing, that said the dealer close to me treated me well and we came to an agreement below MSRP - No pressure or hassle. I could have waited ~ 6 months, but really wanted (needed?) a car.
 
S-plan is pretty cool, but don't be surprised if your local dealer is not eager to offer it on a 6 right now - though clearly overall conditions have changed. If they are not participating now I would expect they will soon!
 
FWIW - The 6 is high on my list for replacement to my 3 - wish the wagon made the cut...
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Re: allocations... [murphydog] by webwarmiller
Aug 27, 2008 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: murphydog (Aug 27, 2008 5:12 pm)

All the dealers I contacted in DFW had no problem in selling the '09 6 under the S-Plan. They actually seemed happy that I was S-Plan.
 
Under normal circumstances (car been on the market for months and isn't in super high demand) most people who know what they are doing should be albe to negotiate to S-Plan pricing levels (or better) without having to be S-Plan. However, with the new 6 I doubt we'll hear many good deals for quite a while that don't involve S-Plan.

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