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aviboy 97 kapaaian Do either of you have any idea about what percentage of Mazda's overall build on the s (V6) model will be devoted to sport, touring, and grand touring models? If you don't have any information in general, how about your own dealership's allocations? I've pretty well decided that the sport model at $24,800 gives me everything I need, and leaves out many things I don't want. At that price, it's a lot of car for the money, IMO. So far, as we near the first month of availability, I've seen nothing but grand touring models at the three dealerships I've visited. One of them told me they have no plans to have any sport V6 models ever. I'm wondering what my odds are going to be of finding any availability on the sport model anytime soon. Thanks for any insights you may have. I like the car a lot and will probably soon be an owner of an s sport...provided I can find one. And yes, I realize dealers will trade cars from their inventories back and forth, and I would accept that if all the sport models seem to avoid my neck of the woods, but I would prefer a car that came directly from the factory to my dealer. |
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Right now, Mazda is kinda forcing our hand on allocations a bit. We wanted to order almost only I GT and I Tourings, but they made us up our selection of V6's. Now granted, of the 4 I've sold thus far, 2 have been V6 Gt's (actually, they were identical, V6 gt's, black with black with nav), 1 I Gt with moon and 1 i touring with moon. What we plan on ordering when they loosen up a bit, depending on how the demand plays out, is probably 80% i's (with a split of about 5/75/20 between sport, touring and gt) and 20% v6 with those being 10/40/50. I agree the S Sport is a good car. We have one so far, but we are not to any of the cars that we ordered yet. Thus far it is all mazda pre-allocation stuff. The I Sport to us is kinda dumb because to us, Mazda people don't like hubcaps, and considering there were no hub's in 2008, bringing them back in 09 is goofy. We hadn't ordered any convenience pack cars because we had no idea what to expect of the half and half leather, but after seeing it, it makes sense. I still think it'll be a very niche thing, but it fills a gap. Should just be a trim level though. Grand Sport or something. We figure our demand will be, once things level off, itr, igt, sgt, str, s sp, i sp. The wildcard will be where the car ends up slotting though. When the CX-9 Launched, everyone, Mazda included, thought it was going up against the pilot and highlander. So everyone ordered Sports and Tourings with about 10% Gt's. Well, 50% of the CX-9's sold (and in areas like ours, more like 80%) are Grand tourings and the vehicle is primarily compared with the Acura MDX and the Buick Enclave. The CX-7 similarly compares usually with Murano and RDX, not Rav4 or CR-v, although the distribution is more even there, with sports making up a good portion of sales too. So if the 6 ends up being mainly compared with Camry and Accord, we'll see a similar build distribution to them. But, if it ends up being more vs. the Maxima, ES, or TL, then the distribution with be more heavy toward V6's. As for getting the car you want. Order to delivery on the car is about 2.5 months. Just go in to a dealership that you've heard good things about and order what you want. You'll have to make a deposit, at ours it's 250 dollars and fully refundable unless the car is goofy or heavily accessorized (someone orders a car with 3000 in accessories, you want to be sure he takes it). While they'll try to find the exact car of course, if they're a good dealership, they won't have any problem just ordering it. A sale is a sale.
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Replying to: kapaaian (Aug 26, 2008 5:56 pm) I really appreciate all that background. If your dealership is typical, then it confirms what I think I already knew, that the s sport will be relatively scarce. I agree about the i sport -- wheel covers just don't seem right on a zoom-zoom Mazda. The nice thing about the s sport is that it has alloys, and I like those alloys as well, if not better, than the touring or grand touring alloys. Your comments about ordering a car are interesting. I've had varied success in that area. When I purchased my current car -- '04 Accord -- the dealership showed me their allocation a few months out, we didn't see what I wanted, and they traded with another dealer's allocation before the car left the factory to get exactly what I wanted. In other words, they could not have been any more helpful. A great buying experience. I had a similar experience with my previous car, a Camry. So far, of the three Mazda dealerships I've visited shopping the new 6, only one has been accommodating with their information. They let me look at their allocation over the coming month or so on the computer screen, we didn't see an s sport, and they agreed to order one if I decided exactly what I wanted. I haven't taken them up on this offer yet, since they're sticking to sticker price (understandable, I suppose, with a new model) and I'm willing to wait until someone is willing to negotiate at least a reasonable amount. Still, a very good shopping experience -- they were willing to share information and be helpful. However, the other two dealerships are the kind that give dealerships a bad reputation with consumers. They insisted they have no idea what they're getting until the truck pulls up. That's nonesense, of course (at least based on what the other Madza dealership was telling me), and the idea that they expect customers to believe that is patronizing and insulting. And they said they were unable to order a car for me. They were the kind of salespeople that have only focus -- have the customer buy a car today that's on the lot, with no regard to what the customer would actually like to have. Fortunately, you sound like a dealership that would try to accomodate what the customer would actually be happy with, and be willing so share information. Thanks again for all the background -- it's very helpful. Either ordering an s sport or finding one in someone's inventory, it tells me I'll more than likely jump on it when I find it, since the selection over time may be very limited.
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Replying to: austinman7 (Aug 27, 2008 6:23 am) Join www.worldkarting.com for $55. They are Mazda S-Plan and will generate an S-Plan PIN for their members. This will get you a no-haggle price of invoice + $255. I'm not sure if the $255 is nationwide, but it is the amount for all of Texas. This is the cheapest legit way to get an S-Plan PIN that I know of. I used S-Plan (along with $500 loyalty and another $500 discount) to get my iGT with 1MC package that had an MSRP of $28,240 for $25,147. The only fee I had to pay was a $50 documentation fee which didn't bother me in the least....some dealers try and charge upwards of $300 for doc fees. Make sure to ask each dealer what their doc fee is as it can vary quite widely. Also ask if they have an advertising fee. The rules of S-Plan clearly state that you can order exactly what you want from the factory (or choose from the dealer's inventory, if they are willing). Here are the details regarding S-Plan: https://portal.mazdausa.com/prod/emazda/intranet/vehicles/vehiclepurchaseplan/he- lp/splan_supplier/brochure/splan_info.htm
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Replying to: kapaaian (Aug 26, 2008 5:56 pm) |
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Well, after spending lots of time in the 09 Mazda6, and then driving home in my 05, it has really dawned on me how obsolete the 1st gen Mazda6 has become. Keep in mind, I really really like my 05!! With all the added technology (BSMS, DSC, custom personalization features, upgraded nav system, Bluetooth audio / phone, rain sensing wipers, advanced keyless system etc, etc, etc...), this car should have been called a Mazda7, IMO. The sophistication, refinement, quality and design I think will draw attention from those looking at not only Honda and Toyota but possibly Acura, Lexus and Audi and it does not carry the premium price tag. While fuel economy, is not class leading, it does not lag far behind, especially with the 4cyl, I still think it will be a hit because of the total package and what the car offers. If we all bought based on fuel economy, we would all drive a Toyota Prius. |
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Sat in a new 6 this morning during an oil change on my '07 Mazda6 I4 auto and noticed that a lot of storage has been removed vs. the 1st gen. I noticed that the little area just in front of the gear shift was gone, replaced by the "start button". This is wear I normally keep my cell phone. The upper dash compartment is gone and the double space console is now a single space. I really like the 1st gen console as it was a handy little storage space that you didn't have to dig around in to find something that you might use a lot. I assume the adjustible, sliding console top caused the elimination of this nice little storage space. Not huge deals but something that will enter into my buying decision.
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 27, 2008 8:39 am) In my Mazda6, in front of the gear shifter is an ash tray (I use as my coin tray). I do think that the dashboard storage area will be missed.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 27, 2008 8:44 am) I think the ash tray was removed from later models of the 1st gen which leaves almost a perfect space to rest a cell phone next to the acc. plug. Held it nice and snug for those "manuevers".
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 27, 2008 8:55 am) Yes, the ash tray was removed as a result of the MY06 face lift. |
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