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#537 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [aviboy97]
Jun 20, 2008 (1:05 pm)
There is your mistake. Dealers have not been able to order Mazda6 5-doors since January, which equates to dealer inventory in March. If you are seeing 30% 5-doors in inventory, that means those cars have been sitting for at least 90 days. Allocations in January were also very minimal, so, in reality, most of those cars were ordered in 2007. Average turn around for Mazda6's are 60 days. What does this mean??? 5-door Mazda6's in your local area do no sell.
You cannot assume what sales are by seeing what is left in dealer inventory. What is left in inventory, in regards to the Mazda6, is what has not sold. Allocations for the 2008 Mazda6 were closed in March. 5-doors were closed in January, as I said earlier. This just proves to me what Mazda has seen. The recent 5-door Mazda6 just does not sell.
I really think this equates to the overall lack of Mazda6 sales. The 2008 Mazda6 does not sell, and that makes the sales for the 5-door look even worse.
I really do think the 5-door is a valuable car, and I really do hope we see the 5-door again. I don't think Mazda is ready to spend the money on one right now, since it is very apparent that Mazda has busted their budget on the NA Mazda6. Once $$ starts rolling in, I think they will spend that $$ on another 5-door for NA.
I should have been more specific about the time frame. I stopped checking the lots about the time when our son was born 6 months ago since I've been a little busy since then. My observations were for before that time. My wife doesn't let me out much anymore.
When I check inventory on the Mazda web site now, there are few if any 5-doors in stock at all. I'd settle for a left-over 2008 model with a nice rebate, if there were any to be found around here. The only one I can find is a 4-cyl auto.
Actually the low demand for the 5-door should work in my favor now since I'm in the market for a used one. I should be able to buy one for a very good price since demand for the 5-door model is so low, right?
#538 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [exit123]
Jun 20, 2008 (9:16 pm)
Here's one small problem though with regards to the 08 5 door selling poorly...
I waited a year to get the 2008 5-door M6. I was too late in 07, they were all gone.
But when the 08's came, I found I could only get a MT in the LOWEST TRIM [Sport Value Edition] (in either the i or s)! I mean, come on...mazda really screwed the pooch on that one.
I want sporty, I want manual, I want functionality of the 5 door. I don't know why mazda won't let me have it!
So now I'm stuck still driving an SUV and still can't decide wth to do.
#539 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [dockramer]
Jun 21, 2008 (4:49 am)
You might be on to something there. Yes, only the SVE Mazda6 5-door came with a manual tranny. The Touring and GT trims were auto only.
I happen to have a 2005 Mazda6 5-door with the luxury package (leather, heated seats and cool gauges) and the moon roof / Bose Audio package and a 5-speed manual!
There have been many times that I have used my hatch feature where a regular sedan would not have been enough. I still think we will see another 5-door. Question is, when??
#540 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [aviboy97], Reply and @ cents
Jun 21, 2008 (5:31 am)
I'll put in my 2 cents. First ogf all it's almost impossible to find a manual in any Mazda or other mid size sedan any more unless you special order it and wait 6-8 weeks. I replaced my stolen 2003 6 sedan with a 2007 6 5-door which I love. I couldn't find a manual trans one in the Metro Detroit area, and it's built in Flat Rock, MI.!
Concerning the new 2009 6 not having a 5-door model. I assume that when Mazda/Ford to build a seperate car for North America, they didn't want to tool for a 5-Door. If we had gotten the rest of the world's model like before, I'm sure they'd also send the 5-door here also. But if people demand it they might tool-up and add the 5-door later, like last time. Personnally I think not having a 5-door is a mistake. but they are looking for more mainstream sales.
#541 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [aviboy97], Reply and @ cents [rdm925]
Jun 21, 2008 (5:48 am)
I really don't think Ford had much to do with our new 6. After talking with numerous head honchos at Mazda, it is clear that the NA 6 was what Mazda had in mind all along. Us fat Americans need a larger car then what Mazda had built for us in the past.
#542 of 2226 From Fat American
Jun 21, 2008 (2:20 pm)
My fat American "bleep" fits in my current 6 just fine. I just needed the welds on the power seat to be made a little better. The dealer wanted 1358 to fix it, 938 just for the part. I found one used and replaced myself for 100.
But to the point, I fir in the current one fine. The new one is so large I might sell my house and live in one, but although I lay my head there, my heart is with the old one.
#543 of 2226 Not too big...
Jun 21, 2008 (3:28 pm)
It may be bigger than the old model, but for those of us (there will be many) who are looking for a replacement for our big SUVs, the 6 will never be "too big".
#544 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [dockramer]
Jun 21, 2008 (8:38 pm)
I agree. Because there will be no 2009 Mazda6 5-door, I'm actually looking at cars like the Pontiac Vibe. Sheesh.
#545 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [aviboy97], Reply and @ cents [rdm925] [avib
Jun 22, 2008 (6:38 am)
I totally understand why the NA 6 was made as large as it is. If this NA 6 were to be released when the original 6 was released, I think it would've made a huge splash. The first gen 6 was too small for american tastes.
However, times are changing. Just because the current 6 was too small for it's time frame, doesnt mean that increasing size will spur sales in the future. Because of rising fuel costs, fuel economy is more important than ever. Imagine if Mazda brought over the world 6, they could run ads claiming they lowered weight, blah blah, improved fuel economy, even while making the car larger, while all their competitors are bloating their cars up. If anything, this was the perfect time to not waste resources on a NA 6, while 5 years ago was the perfect time to build a larger NA 6.
Basically, from the early reviews, it seems Mazda has finally built the perfect midsize sedan having great quality, quietness, size while retaining great handling/steering feel. But, they've done it 5 years too late, and it may be irrelevant. I think the formula might be changing with fuel economy becoming more important.
If you look at the new product coming from the midsize leaders (honda, toyota), there are tons of fuel efficient vehicles.
I'm curious though, are people stepping down from SUVs to these large sedans? or will they be going all out in terms of fuel economy going into small cars, hybrids, etc.
#546 of 2226 Marketing material
Jun 22, 2008 (7:10 am)
I was wondering if dealers have brochures to hand out on the new 6 yet? I'm really looking for something that might show what accessories will be available. Current pricing doesn't really provide any indication.
And here is a hot idea. If the dollar ever recovers, maybe they can ship in hatchbacks and wagons of the other design. Call them 6s call them something else, but why not? Maybe even base the mazdaspeed version off the Euro hatchback.